Yea Overtone they mentioned ORMUS a bit.
Then I'll try and elucidate.
A friend of mine, who was quite young (18 at the time) & definitely is'nt a student of the 'esoteric', she spoke up after we watched a video partially about ormes, saying that it if you ate this stuff it would cost you your soul! bizarre as that sounds, it was completely intuitive reasoning. Then to confirm this, a bit later I saw a video where Dan Winter basically reiterated what my friend had said.
Supposedly, members of the draco race used this stuff because they had lost the ability to feel bliss.
Hence I don't trust it, nor the peolpe who are advocating it.
Can't think of a need for it in the first place, as I have everything I need.