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Re: [ AnD he r00 bin right mind on page ]
« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2012, 04:08:31 AM »

^ Shit, sorry for making light of your dark night Evo.  As usual, discordance can arise when I think with too little emotion.
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« Reply #81 on: July 21, 2012, 04:41:43 AM »
Just wanted to add something to my blog and share something that occurred today.  I'll make it short.  I went for a two hour bush trail walk in a national park type thingy in my city and, after thinking incessantly and then realising what I was doing, practised presence.  I know for many of you this state of mind is common but as I said recently in my past it was a hindrance as it only fuelled the derealisation I regularly experienced (complete loss-of-context spaced out lost mind-state).  This time, however, after "rebuilding my mental strength" over these past years, I was able to go in and out of complete presence without getting derealised.  It was so wonderful - drinking water, and then observing the bottle, feeling its texture, noticing my hands for the first time..  I was completely immersed in my actions and although mundane I experienced them joyfully. 

I also pondered/confronted those old feelings of inadequacy and can say that they are starting to ebb away.  I can feel myself becoming more of myself and I am starting to allow whatever I am to emerge and be accepted.  It comes down to doubt and trust, and always has.  I am definitely within the transition from doubt to trust, I am happy to announce.  I am unsure why, but learning to go the direction of trust has been THE hardest thing I have gone through.  I think that is because trust is invisible (at least for me) - or was it just hard to see?  It's that guidance one hopes is in place, and as many of my choices were not externally supported I put my faith in that hope for something I can't know for sure is really there.  But to make other choices, I've found, is to be discordant within, and so, unless I want to be unhappy, my hand is forced.  It's funny, I think I've come to this point by walking down every avenue of doubt possible, and waiting for a satisfaction that never came.  There are no options left but to trust myself, and so here I am, finally beginning to do so.  Trusting myself was a very foreign concept until recently but I think I am now beginning to learn the language; one day, "no doubt," I will become fluent!

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« Reply #82 on: July 21, 2012, 10:39:36 PM »
Yah-fucking-hoo, you're the man Roo.

Thanks for reflecting. Appreciated. :-)
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« Reply #83 on: July 21, 2012, 10:41:22 PM »

^ Shit, sorry for making light of your dark night Evo.  As usual, discordance can arise when I think with too little emotion.

Not sure why you are apologizing but can appreciate the sentiment. :)
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« Reply #84 on: July 31, 2012, 07:06:41 AM »
(I apologise in advance if this reads like a fucking kids novel.)

An interesting thing happened today; I had an important revelation.  Now lately I have been working on my appearance, trying this and that, experimenting with new fashions.  This was all based on feeling inadequate in my clothing pieces which were few, simple, and perhaps, to me, childish.  Compared to the high fashion of the city my clothes felt way too comfortable - I was never going to meet any girls!  So anyway I bought some things and ended up with half a wardrobe of "in" things along side my older half of mismatched items (in various states of decay).  Wearing my new clothes was fun for a while; I'd receive complimentary and flirtacious looks from women (and men) and I rested on a sense of confidence that I had a right to be in public.  But that didn't last long and I began to feel uncomfortable again.  One day I was so anxious in my new "shiny jeans" I couldn't help but scan every passerby for evidence, found in their eyes, of their reaction to my "image."  I became so insecure that I had no choice but to return, in haste, to my place of lodging, away from all the feedback.  Once back I was mentally exhausted and confused.  I went to bed that night just relieved to get away from that situation.

The next morning, however - and I don't know why, it was a truly unconscious impulse - I felt a strong desire to wear my favourite, simplest clothes, the ones I felt most comfortable in.  And I had a great day.  The anxiety was gone, and I no longer felt insecure.  My clothes, although basic, felt like the finest garments of Paris, well, at least far more finer than my "fashionable" gear.  I was considering this as I walked home and it dawned on me what was happening.  The only reason why I chose to wear fashionable clothes - clothes that I didn't necessarily want to wear, but which were deemed socially acceptable - was because I felt insecure without them.  They were a compensation for inferiority feelings.  But why didn't they work?  Because when I wore them they reinforced the idea that I was inferior and needed to wear nice clothing to feel worthy.  It was an impossible solution.  Had I worn them because I genuinely thought they suited me it would have been an authentic and neutral experience; but I didn't really care what I wore, I only chose them to boost my self-esteem.  Thus the very act of donning them recreated this psychological state of mind and polarised the inferiority feelings and compensatory mechanism: the better I dressed the more inferior I felt and the more anxious I became. 

It is such a relief to become aware of this process.  And to go through the experience has somehow made it ok to dress simply, but I don't know how.  I feel ok wearing plain clothes now, it is more natural for me anyhow.  I am the odd, scruffy, awkward, introverted type - and proud of it.  Dressing fancy was so inauthentic, but I had to try it out.  I guess I can still dress formal, etc. but no longer will I use fashion as a form of compensation.  Me is me is me is me.  I stare at trees.  I sit on wet seats.  I pick the hairs on my chin.  I am awkward, spontaneous, sometimes in my own world, and I find delight in unusual aspects of the environment.  I wear glasses.  I hunch over sometimes.  And I don't really care about staying within the confines of that which is deemed socially acceptable.  I am in my own universe, so to speak, I can do what I want. 

I must be careful of labelling myself as alternative or anti-materialist and defining myself in opposition to materialism.  I will just pick that which suits me.  Simple.  A

nd yeah this might all seem shallow but clothing/appearance is just one of many sphere in the life of someone with low self-esteem. 

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« Reply #85 on: July 31, 2012, 08:06:37 AM »
Pleasure reading your entry, Roo :)

Have you absorbed the 4 agreements?

Interesting little book of Toltec wisdom. :)

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« Reply #86 on: July 31, 2012, 08:30:15 AM »
Pleasure reading your entry, Roo :)

Have you absorbed the 4 agreements?

Interesting little book of Toltec wisdom. :)

No but I'll take any excuse to buy a book.  Looking into - there's probably an online version right?
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« Reply #87 on: July 31, 2012, 08:33:41 AM »
Probably. Check it out.. it's a quick & easy read that packs a punch.

Read a quote the other day... Genius is Simplicity. Pretty much spot on for me.

Let me know how it goes... still have yet to dip into the poo book. Maybe during my retreat.
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« Reply #88 on: July 31, 2012, 07:12:33 PM »

Will do.  Poo book lol.  Retreat? 
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« Reply #89 on: July 31, 2012, 07:57:56 PM »
Someone left a Karma Pootra book in one of our outhouses. Pretty enlightening. :D

Ya, 7 days of ''me time'' after 14 days of ''them time''. :D
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« Reply #90 on: July 31, 2012, 08:21:57 PM »

Man I'd like that book!  I've got "The Tao of Love and Sex" which is pretty cool.

How is the retreat different from normal life at the foundation?  Most retreats I hear of involve meditation, healthy eating, comtemplation, nature walks, etc.  But you seem to do those things all the time (with meeting in between of course)!
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« Reply #91 on: August 01, 2012, 07:08:15 AM »
As an active participant in communal life one dedicates a large percentage of their time to service. The two(+/-) week shared leadership role requires even more.

Whilst it is true IMO to dissolve separation between STO/STS, where "I" am now I sense a tangible difference between the two.

It's like sleeping in contrast to waking. A solo retreat is a solo retreat where living in community is living in community. Suppose it's both.

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« Reply #92 on: August 01, 2012, 09:21:15 AM »

Got it!  I forget there's a lot of work involved with communal living.
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« Reply #93 on: August 01, 2012, 05:51:24 PM »
Decide who you are then clad yourself appropriately....Beau Brummell.
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« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2013, 10:54:06 PM »
So I’m outisde, and by this wall I smoke a cigarette.  I’m staring across the park, the road, and into the university.  And I think, this is it, the warm air, the trees, the moon, the sound of water in the distance.  I realise I could write about it.  I could express my internal world by externalising it.  It would become tangible and I could share it with others, saying this is me, see, this is who I am.  But how to start.  I can never stick to anything.  Even my studies..  I love reading but I really have to force myself to do it.  How can I force myself to write without it become fake.  Someone next door, out in their yard, gets up and walks inside.  I hadn’t even noticed him.  Is he thinking the same things as me.  Is writing really the answer, or is it just a way of coping with lonliness.  Maybe what I need is to sit next to someone, out by this wall, smoking cigarettes, and say to them, this is it, the warm air, the trees, the moon, the sound of water in the distance, this is it isn’t it. 
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« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2013, 07:57:28 AM »
 Had my second day of uni today (second year, first semester).

Went to the first lecture but missed the second lecture and the following tutorial.

Right now I just got back from work (two hours early because it was a slow night).

I feel like I am having some kind of "episode."  I feel really down and scared, everything scares me. 

At uni all the people scare me.  It's just too overwhelming.  And I have trouble concentrating.  I can't get into the study frame of mind.

It's hard getting up in the morning, I've been sleeping in most of the holidays.  When I'm tired I feel kind of detached and that increases the anxiety.  So when I'm at uni I'm not myself, partly because my sleep cycle is out of sync.

So I skipped class because I felt too overwhelmed.  I wish I didn't but I just couldn't handle the situation.  It's probably because I haven't been at uni for four months.

I can't talk like I used to.  I just want to be by myself, curled into a ball.  The delusions of reference come back and I feel like I am letting the world down again.

At work things are weird.  Do they know what I'm thinking?  I don't socialise, I'm abrupt when communicating, even rude, I'm obsessive compulsive.  I don't feel right.  I volunteer to go home early. 

I get a $250 fine on the way to work for using my phone in the car.  I was only checking Instgram at a stop light.  It is my first fine and I take it well but with everything else it's just fuel for the fire.

I know when I'm like this I exaggerate things so I try to convince myself that things are ok.

New housemates are moving in and I can't be friendly because I'm scared of them.  I'm scared of anything social atm.  Like I used to be all the time.

Physically there's a ball of fire in the pit of my stomach and its churning, churning.  My eyes are behind a wall of glass - I think that's called derealisation.  I am pessimistic.  Things are bad.

I finally realise I've felt this way before.  I'm cycling.  It's just been so long, and I've been feeling so much better, that I've forgotten what it's like to be this way.   This gives me some comfort because I remember that these "episodes" are only temporary. 

Also, the floor I'm experiencing usually follows and precedes a high point, with a plateau somewhere in there.  Which means that this low is the new standard (and is higher than the last one) and that I can expect a improved "normal" feeling. 

The ups and downs are also becoming less intense and frequent thus I think I am healing and will one day reach a more or less consistent (or maybe stable-ish) consciousness.

I'm sure I will overcome this neurotic way of being though.

I don't want to watch a film or anything because that would distract me from this feeling which although unpleasant is real.  I don't want to be looking the other way while my life passes by.  I want to experience this state fully, and write about it, and get to know it, and maybe even appreciate it for what it is, maybe even accept it, maybe even love it.

I think I've covered everything.  Back to uni, new housemates, scared of everything, derealised, overwhelmed, anxious pit of fire, cycles, more ups than downs, transitioning, appreciation, acceptance.

Such a strange experience this.  Amazing how quickly things can shift.  It's definitely more subdued than it was last time.  So physical too.  I can feel the chemicals in my legs right now.  The thoughts aren't real, the thoughts aren't real.  It's an illusion.  I trust myself.  And I accept myself.  I give in, I give up. 

I cling to this raft boat and wait out the storm.

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« Reply #97 on: March 05, 2013, 03:44:24 PM »


Enjoyed reading Roo. Do you write poetry or stories at all?
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« Reply #98 on: March 06, 2013, 05:00:23 AM »


Enjoyed reading Roo. Do you write poetry or stories at all?

Should I?  I wish I could but there are many obstacles in the way, not least of which is whether I should or not (whether its in me to do so).  Maybe it will happen in its own time, if its ever going to.  But no, lol, I don't write poetry or short stories (well sometimes I do when I feel inspired, but not very often, not regularly).  Cheers though, glad you enjoyed reading it.

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« Reply #99 on: March 06, 2013, 06:44:52 AM »


Enjoyed reading Roo. Do you write poetry or stories at all?

Should I?
  I wish I could but there are many obstacles in the way, not least of which I should or not (whether its in me to do).

 I only see one.
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« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2013, 09:36:48 AM »


Enjoyed reading Roo. Do you write poetry or stories at all?

Should I?
  I wish I could but there are many obstacles in the way, not least of which I should or not (whether its in me to do).

 I only see one.

I've done so many things in the past, tried on so many personas, adopted so many different fads, that these days I'm more cautious of investing myself in certain defining pursuits.  Sports, computer games, nerd/scholar, hippy, cult member, instruments (guitar and keyboard, but singing stuck), music production, partier, surfer..  I don't want to impetuously put on the gown of "writer" only to have in painfully torn off a few moments later.  I feel like there are so many people who just one day decide to be a "writer" and suddenly they get all the benefits that identifying as a writer brings: insightful, observant, creative, producers of culture, a cut above the rest, woody allen.  Maybe this whole theme "faker" is a complex I need to explore.  Maybe I mixing my identity with hobbies too much.  But I just feel like I want to take my time with anything new, with new possibilities.  Because when I start something I get right into it.  I invest a lot of time and emotion and I strive really hard to get good at it.  The thing is, I've only ever stuck with "psycho-analysis" consistently, and singing.  Now I'm starting to add uni to that short list.  But I've given up a lot of things prematurely.  I want to make sure, before I get to that height of dedication, that I've chosen the right thing.  And developing a relationship to that thing at the proper depth takes time.  So I'm being patient this time because writing could be something big for me.  But then again who knows, lol.  Why make such a big deal of it?  It could just be a hobby.  I mean, I'll use writing all the time because that's how a lot of communication happens.  So maybe the issue is that I am looking for my meaningful vocation in life and wondering if writing is the correct fit.  Thus there's a lot of pressure placed on practising the craft.  The solution would therefore be to approach writing as just something fun to do, and give up needing to know my vocation and just let whatever it will be develop naturally (which I accept could not take the form of a career but more as a life long process of inner growth).  But still, I don't know.  I just don't feel like I have anything to write about yet.  I may be coming together under the surface...

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« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2013, 04:04:38 PM »


Well, I suppose you see it as you do.  I wrote some poetry as a teenager. Does that make me a poet? I made a covered wagon with my son this weekend for a school project. Does that make me a covered wagon builder?

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« Reply #102 on: March 06, 2013, 11:05:35 PM »


Well, I suppose you see it as you do.  I wrote some poetry as a teenager. Does that make me a poet? I made a covered wagon with my son this weekend for a school project. Does that make me a covered wagon builder?

I see personas as clothing. You put them on, you take them off.

Yeah it's probably some complex interfering which the pure enjoyment of exploration.  Nothing is simple for me it seems.
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« Reply #103 on: March 07, 2013, 08:03:25 PM »
Had my second day of uni today (second year, first semester).

Went to the first lecture but missed the second lecture and the following tutorial.

Right now I just got back from work (two hours early because it was a slow night).

I feel like I am having some kind of "episode."  I feel really down and scared, everything scares me. 

At uni all the people scare me.  It's just too overwhelming.  And I have trouble concentrating.  I can't get into the study frame of mind.

It's hard getting up in the morning, I've been sleeping in most of the holidays.  When I'm tired I feel kind of detached and that increases the anxiety.  So when I'm at uni I'm not myself, partly because my sleep cycle is out of sync.

So I skipped class because I felt too overwhelmed.  I wish I didn't but I just couldn't handle the situation.  It's probably because I haven't been at uni for four months.

I can't talk like I used to.  I just want to be by myself, curled into a ball.  The delusions of reference come back and I feel like I am letting the world down again.

At work things are weird.  Do they know what I'm thinking?  I don't socialise, I'm abrupt when communicating, even rude, I'm obsessive compulsive.  I don't feel right.  I volunteer to go home early. 

I get a $250 fine on the way to work for using my phone in the car.  I was only checking Instgram at a stop light.  It is my first fine and I take it well but with everything else it's just fuel for the fire.

I know when I'm like this I exaggerate things so I try to convince myself that things are ok.

New housemates are moving in and I can't be friendly because I'm scared of them.  I'm scared of anything social atm.  Like I used to be all the time.

Physically there's a ball of fire in the pit of my stomach and its churning, churning.  My eyes are behind a wall of glass - I think that's called derealisation.  I am pessimistic.  Things are bad.

I finally realise I've felt this way before.  I'm cycling.  It's just been so long, and I've been feeling so much better, that I've forgotten what it's like to be this way.   This gives me some comfort because I remember that these "episodes" are only temporary. 

Also, the floor I'm experiencing usually follows and precedes a high point, with a plateau somewhere in there.  Which means that this low is the new standard (and is higher than the last one) and that I can expect a improved "normal" feeling. 

The ups and downs are also becoming less intense and frequent thus I think I am healing and will one day reach a more or less consistent (or maybe stable-ish) consciousness.

I'm sure I will overcome this neurotic way of being though.

I don't want to watch a film or anything because that would distract me from this feeling which although unpleasant is real.  I don't want to be looking the other way while my life passes by.  I want to experience this state fully, and write about it, and get to know it, and maybe even appreciate it for what it is, maybe even accept it, maybe even love it.

I think I've covered everything.  Back to uni, new housemates, scared of everything, derealised, overwhelmed, anxious pit of fire, cycles, more ups than downs, transitioning, appreciation, acceptance.

Such a strange experience this.  Amazing how quickly things can shift.  It's definitely more subdued than it was last time.  So physical too.  I can feel the chemicals in my legs right now.  The thoughts aren't real, the thoughts aren't real.  It's an illusion.  I trust myself.  And I accept myself.  I give in, I give up. 

I cling to this raft boat and wait out the storm.




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« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2013, 11:43:39 AM »
I need my blog.

Ok.  So this afternoon I was excited to go over to my family's house for dinner.  My father wasn't there, but everyone else - my mother, brother, sister and her boyfriend - would.  I was mid-way through "Das Experiment" when I closed my laptop, jumped up from my bed, put on some shoes, and hurried out the door, looking forward to sharing stories with those closest to me.  Upon arriving ten minutes later I felt a little funny - like you do just after watching a movie in the cinema, you get absorbed by the film and momentarily your real life and reality lose context - but I shook it off telling myself I would be fine once I got inside.

I feel apprehensive as I approach the door, but hopeful too.  As I enter, the first person I see is my sister's boyfriend, sitting at the dining room table.  He's a good guy but although he's been with my sister about a year I still don't feel comfortable with him.  I've always felt it easier to act more like myself with my nuclear family, though not at all regularly, and a lot harder otherwise.  So straight away there's this formality there.  We shake hands enthusiastically, like we're both betting all our money on the outcome that we'll end up good friends.  Next is my younger brother, about nineteen, at that really youthful stage of adolescence, that incredibly childish part of adulthood.  He's sitting at the head of the table, shirt off, laptop in front of him, headphones on, with one of his legs extended over two of the other chairs.  We shake hands and say, "wassup."

In the kitchen is my mother and sister.  My attention first notices my sister prepare some appetisers, jatz biscuits with cheese and sausage - I wonder who for.  I kiss my mother on the cheek and say hello to my sister.  She's making them for her boyfriend.  She could make some for me too, but she looks doubtful so I say I can do it myself.  Then the first wound is felt as my mother says she needs to go upstairs to work on her computer for an hour before dinner.  One down, two to go.

After making some jatz biscuits with cheese and sausage for myself I join the other three at the table.  The first problem is that there is nowhere to sit.  The table is covered with laptops, cables, folders, papers, a diary, displaced placemats, and, well, limbs.  My sister offers to move her laptop but then becomes absorbed in it too as she checks things online.  I pull out the power cable to free up a spot but that causes the laptop to lose power and I'm scolded.  But with the cable there I can't sit down.  I give in and go around the table to sit next to her boyfriend. 

I try to talk to my brother about uni.  He recently transferred to the same uni so we now have a lot of common.  We also just got back from an interstate trip together.  I ask him this and that and he does he best to answer with headphones on but ends up polity requesting that I refrain from bothering him while he watches some important media.  So I turn to my sister who is thoroughly engaged in planning her social calendar with her boyfriend.  But after trying to become involved in that conversation by asking about Easter and birthday plans I get the feeling she doesn't want to talk to me either.  In fact, (as a sign he respects his girlfriend's brother) all of my questions are answered hastily in an undertone by her boyfriend.  Then, as an aside, during a lull of conversation, she asks me offhand how uni is going.  My perceptions are too keen, however, so, sensing her indifference, I answer, solemnly, "good." 

By now I'm starting to feel quite down and I begin to lose my confidence and any buoyancy I had mustered.  My hope deflates and I'm left unsure of things.  I start to experience deluded thoughts and I wonder if I've done something very wrong, like my past wrongs are being compensated for karmically by at a metaphysical level alienating my family.  I begin to lose my individuality and I can't think clearly.  I forget things, like who I am and what I like doing and the stories I wanted to share before I came over.  The fear engulfs me and I close down.

I'm by myself now in their shed.  It's nice in her, quiet and calm, and I remember a bit more about myself.  I move some boxes around searching for something I thought I left here.  There's dad's guitar on a shelf.  I take it down, grab a beer, and go into the lounge room to play.  I am able to tune the guitar by ear which I'm proud of but it's awfully lonely down here by myself and I am not enthused to play.  I think, "what am I doing here, is this really the family home?"  Thirty minutes later dinner is ready so I brace myself and go back up.

It's just my mother and myself in the kitchen and she's asking me questions about myself.  She's good at that, being genuinely interested in you and your life, like you matter, like you have value and worth - that's one quality I admire about her.  But I am too depressed now to answer her properly, and my memory is still playing tricks on me.  So I do my best but it's not really going anywhere.  I spot some red wine and pour myself a glass to desensitise myself a bit.

Then it is time to serve up so my sister and brother, who live there, move into action.  This part is pretty uneventual except for a little incident that my fragile state of being can't stand.  My brother is mashing potato and I hear there is no butter left.  Having learnt a good way to add flavour to mash I start adding olive oil to the mash.  My brother yells "whoa" very loudly and pulls back the pot in disgust.  He says I'm ruining it and that I don't know how to cook, "you're not a chef, you're not even a cook."  This hurts, because I do cook, and on our trip I had taught him some things and we had cooked meals together.  It was a good bonding experience.  And I've always encouraged him to cook for himself and supported him where I can.  So in this respect his reaction is a big blow to me.  Is feels like he is rejecting those bonding experiences, because they hinged on me leading (in one of the few areas I can), but also taking a stab at my worthiness by proclaiming that I had no ability in an area in which I thought I did.  Inside I feel hurt but that is quickly covered up by anger.  I feel the urge to knock his phone of the table, to kick his laptop, to damage something.

So by this stage I'm feeling overcome by depression.  I can't express myself and my true personality is buried under layers of hurt and feelings of rejection.  My mum leaving me to myself earlier; my brother being so aloof and later cruel; and my sister also seeming apathetic.  During dinner I stare at my plate and play with my food while the others talk.  I hear whispers of my behaviour.  I know I need to leave even though it's early.  So I get up and clear my plate, and then say to my mother that I'm feeling tired and am going to take off early.  I assure her it's not because my brother is acting "loud and annoying" and say a quick goodbye to everyone before heading out the door.

At the traffic lights I try to clear my head, overcome my state of mind, but it's no use.  I am sucked down.  I get home and first thing I do is fine a cigarette.  After smoking it quickly I feel relieved and kind of high and I finish watching "Das Experiment" while looking up threads with the word "family" in them on psycheforum and socialanxietysupport.  I still feel like shit though so I cook pancakes.  Still feel like shit, smoke another cigarette.  So..  unmotivated.. apathetic.. nothing gives any enjoyment, not movies, not books, not internet.  I actually don't know what to do with myself.  I take a shower in the dark, sitting on the tiles with the water on hot, shivering.  And in my head: fuck everything, nothing is worth it, I'm just crazy, how am I going to get through uni, I'm sick of these ups and downs, are they really even ups and downs, I don't understand anything, the world is too much.  I even have low-strength suicidal thoughts: then people would notice me.

But sitting under the water I start to reflect on the night and my feelings about it and I start to make sense of things.  Before in the midst of people and emotions it wasn't so clear but now it is.  It was those three feelings of rejection that induced a sense of social disconnection and thus unworthiness and loneliness.  It triggered massive complexes within my psyche which expressed itself in a turbulent mood swing.  I realise that I need to write about my experiences tonight so I can map them, and then I can plan a method of recovery.  This was an incredibly powerful feeling as it gave me a sense of control and hope.  Writing about it (which I've just done) focuses my energies, distances me from the experience and produces comprehension thus allowing me to figure it out.  It is an exercise in sense and meaning-making. 

There are four books I need to read, two of which I already have and have started on, and two that are in the mail:

     Loneliness: Human Nature and the Need for Social Connection  - By John T. Cacioppo & William Patrick

     Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead - By Brene Brown

     Scattered: How Attention Deficit Disorder Originates And What You Can Do About It - Gabor Mate

     Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking - Susan Cain

Books on social connection, vulnerability (as a prerequisite to wholesome living), adhd, and introversion.  I believe these four topics crucial to my psychology and that with them I can discover ways of addressing my individual needs.

A question I would really like the answer to is: because I am so sensitive to rejection will I always need people around me to affirm my worth (and thus should I find them) or can I learn to confirm my own worth (if so how)?

Is it ok to form of network of emotional support or is there a way to find something within that gives me all the emotional nourishment I need?

Can I be happy alone, or is it genetically inevitable that, alone, I will feel lonely?

Ill leave it at that tonight.  I can see what happened tonight, what triggered my depressive mood, and now I need to find out what I need to do about it.

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« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2013, 06:26:32 PM »
This whole 'meditate everyday' thing is a good cure. Just practice everyday.

- Also Bill Donahue has much to say, I find him very inspiring.



 
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« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2013, 09:21:32 PM »

Fuck meditation.  Not for me at this stage.  I want to understand my psychic process, go through the dark periods, not detach from them or change my "frequency of consciousness" to something higher.  I'm in the middle of this mess of form and I want to embrace that.
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« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2013, 10:46:01 PM »
I believe that we administer the correct medicine for ourselves when & as needed. Good that you are aware of what you need when you need it.  O:-)
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« Reply #108 on: March 12, 2013, 08:31:40 AM »

Fuck meditation.  Not for me at this stage.  I want to understand my psychic process, go through the dark periods, not detach from them or change my "frequency of consciousness" to something higher.  I'm in the middle of this mess of form and I want to embrace that.


Sometimes you come across as an eloquent Pixies! - whom you are always quick to condemn! - So don't condemn Your Self Roo!

What do you think meditation is for?                                      Detachment - NO.

Meditation is the best kind of treatment (psychic renewal) to be able to understand You & to deal with the world around/inside You.

If you return to Your Self, re-New Your Self, re-New Your mind, You will EASILY deal with Your psychological process! This is what the Science of Consciousness is for.

Consciousness the ruler of Your Self, ruler of Your Mind, the Pineal in the CENTRE of Your Head - where the psychic processes go on!

Here's a good vid on PSYCHOLOGY.

78A Buddha Ten Worlds Of The Mind

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« Reply #109 on: March 12, 2013, 10:11:33 AM »

So, what he's saying is, you will flit from one psychological aspect to another, at the drop of a hat or stub of a toe , your very own merry-go-roller-coaster.

Depending on your conditioning, some psychological aspects will dominate others, but there are 10 basic aspects that we all have, to differing degrees. The ten interact with each other constantly, this is the nature of mind.
The message from Buddha, Krishna, Bible, Bhagavad Gita etc is, that if YOU want to understand YOURSELF, then YOU must RENEW YOUR MIND. You will keep on encountering the same shit-filled scenarios until YOU, 'alter' YOUR own programming.
 
ONLY YOU can rewrite YOUR program, taking entheogenic substances can help to a degree, but only daily sustained meditation will 'hardcode' your mother board.
 
Only YOU can heal yourself, or would you prefer a psychiatrist, with his own thoughts, drugs & agenda?
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« Reply #110 on: March 12, 2013, 02:47:34 PM »

After about 15 minutes he explains conscious/subconscious relationship & the effects of meditation on mind & hence it is literally our ONLY REAL CHOICE IN LIFE! ie. to light the lamp which is your Pineal or walk around in the dark as blind automatons!

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« Reply #111 on: March 13, 2013, 07:01:47 AM »

Thanks Dor, I'll look into your sources.  I guess I haven't fully explored the potential of meditation so I thank you for the reminder.

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« Reply #112 on: March 23, 2013, 12:34:20 AM »
The end of another week which I'd like to reflect on.  I guess an overarching theme is that of doubt.  But we'll get to that.  I'm well into uni now (end of third week) and am getting up again in the mornings.  Dosing with stimulant meds has recommenced (to help me study) but I'm still trying to find the right balance where I can focus but still think the way I'm used to.  Work has slowed down (one or two shifts a week) and I don't miss it.  Money is tight, though, because I am still putting it aside to pay that fine.  But these words are drifting further from reality - work and finance occupy a very small part of my focus.  What follows is what really has been happening (which appears in a somewhat linear fashion but the arrangement of insights is only for clarity of narration):

Family issues continue and trigger many things.  It seems every time I go over there I return injured in some way.  But this isn't necessarily a set-back as it usually turns into a catalytic probing of some sort which helps me advance.  For instance, the last time I was there I was alone with my mother.  Knowing there were still unresolved issues (relating to the mother within me) I was nervous.  Conversation is always difficult for me and even more so within this tight and personal boundary.  Paranoid thoughts started to rise again, reminding me of things I forget until they point them out again, and my worldview starts to collapse again.  I leave shortly thereafter in a poor state.

Back at home I start researching psychedelic experiences again (I often have searched for them hoping for some explanation of my own trip).  This time, however, I bear in mind some words a friend told me to the effect of "your experiences are unique to you but reflected in the experiences of others."  I started to this reflection in the stories of others.  Although no-one had experienced exactly what I had, I could see how the same underlying processes were operating to produce different "illusions."  I defined what I had as a "psychedelic crisis" and for the first time considered that what happened wasn't "real" in the ordinary sense but was produced by myself from my peculiar psychic state.  This was very liberating because I could see beyond my fears to what caused them, whereas I used to doubt that the reality beyond them wasn't real.

I have also recently gained insight into addiction, thanks to the work of Gabor Mate (Gar-bor Matt-eh).  In brief, the theory is that if as a child you do not receive the love and attention you need your brain misses out on some essential chemicals that it requires to complete particular neural circuitry.  Later in life, you receive these neural-chemicals through substance addiction or obsessions with work, sex, power, etc.  Of course, the pseudo-love is transient and never enough so as you grow more and more desperate you increase the quantities or intensity of the obsessions.  I become addicted to so many things: alcohol, cigarettes, fast-food, caffeine, porn, shopping.  What I've become aware of is the "completion" I feel when I am engaged in these things and then the emptiness that returns afterwards.

By understanding and becoming aware of these emotions I believe I am slowly becoming free of their hold.  Apparently when you are in the midst of an emotional urge to engage one of these addictions the executive functions of brain shut down and your limbic system takes over.  This part of the brain doesn't think rationally and thus you have to "reboot" you prefrontal cortex.  You do this by asking what events caused the emotion, how you interpreted those events, and what your emotional reaction was to those events.  Events can be externally or internally triggered.  I performed this exercise when I was about to go out for fast-food two hours before dinner.  I wrote about two pages and discovered exactly where my feelings of insufficiency had come from.  During that process I was relieved and "back in control" (steady).  Later, I did this again in a different situation and had the same results: I regained the overall awareness of myself that had temporarily been blocked by the triggered complex.  These emotional longings happen in different degrees I must note that there is always an underlying emotional void whose filling is a long-term project.

In asking the question whether to love from within or from without I am still unsure.  There is always a base feeling of incompleteness.  But it is "manageable" without addictions - however, addressing it is the sole purpose of my life.  I don't feel love but need to; I don't feel worthy but need to; and I don't feel a sense of belonging but need to.  Will I have to rely on the care and attention of others to fill this need, or is there an untapped spring within?  While pondering these very same questions outside last night, my foot bumped into a young and ungrown pine cone.  Something like this:



There had been a pine tree in our yard but it had recently been cut down because it didn't survive the dry and hot summer we've just had.  Anyway, for me the pine cone had the potential to act as a symbol of the pineal gland. Thus I thought that in order for me to feel complete I had to work with the pineal in some way (i.e. the answer is love from within).  As much as I want this to be true I still doubt it, and I swing between me being on some path to liberation vs. me being a deluded neurotic making meaning where there is none.  From the spiritual/religious perspective, I was denying grace.  Yet from another there was nothing to deny because I am just crazy. 

This particular strand of doubt is very significant because a lot of my drive in life comes from a sense of purpose I get from believing myself on some kind of mission.  I worry, in fact, I'm producing certain fantasies myself in order to perpetuate my belief systems.  The thing is, these fantasies are old and deeply rooted, and to do with my deepest desires: ideas about my vocation, family, self-realisation, etc.

For example, after reading Jung last night (I want to read more of him and more comprehensively - I usually read him out of context), I wondered about my thirst for knowledge at uni.  I am doing well at uni.  I am getting high grades, ranking top of the courses, I study hard, am learning heaps, have the attention of several tutors and the university, am supported, and feel like I am unfolding as a scholar/researcher.  Jung provides a story of a lady whose father, which she had a very close bond with, dies, and experiencing emotional lack, subsequently starts avidly studying philosophy.  Jung says the feeling void is compensated for on the intellectual plane but the lady won't fill the void unless she finds a suitable outlet for her feeling.

The reason I study so hard is to figure myself out.  I have this idea that once this is done I may be able to help others do the same.  By going through this intense experience so consciously, and with a curiosity towards it, and with a certain talent for writing and teaching, I believe I am well suited for this task.  However, what if this idea is a manifestation of the fantasies above?  What if my idea of myself as a researcher and the intense energy I pour into study is a psychological compensation for the inner feelings of incompleteness and unworthiness?  What if it is not really my "destiny," but a symptom of neurosis?  Does this mean the best course of action is to abandon the search and just focus on integrating with "normal" people.  Does it mean eventually I'll realise that I'm kidding myself and don't have it in me to be a researcher?  That it wont ultimately provide what I need"

For as long as I can remember I've been shy.  Ever since preschool I've gotten more and more alienated.  I don't know who I am apart from feeling unloved, unworthy.  I know I am sensitive, but if I had felt loved as a child where would I be today?  Would I still be interested in philosophy, pyschology, metaphysics, society, and culture?  Is that my "natural" inclination or a symptom of mental illness?  Is there a core to me?  If I had no feelings of lack, and was just sensitive, what would have my path been in life?  A musician?  A scientist?  A builder?  I would really like to know.  Is this scholarly gig just another "coat" to soon discard?  What I am apart from these interests?

Look, when it comes down to it I know I will have the strength and intelligence to deny my illusions and uncover the true self.  Past history has proved that I have these two skills: discernment, and the courage to do what I know is right.  So if this forage into study is just a detour on the way to stripping back the layers of the self I will be able to accept it.  There is a lot invested in it though.  I feel like I am connecting the dots.  And the future "vision" of myself as some form of teacher is very sincere and powerful - it came to be when I was in Peru asking what my task in this life was. 

When I am in my room or at uni studying and writing I feel so alive.  I love finding and understanding new concepts. I love gaining new insights.  I love connecting ideas and tweaking my own. I love writing about them.  I love the process of discovery.  I am tearing up as a write this.  I don't like partying.  I don't like going to shopping malls or the beach.  I don't like crows of people.  I like solitude.  I like walking in nature.  I love animals.  And I love reading, and researching.  I feel like it was what I was born to do.  I can see myself doing this for the rest of my life.  But what if these feelings and preferences are determined by childhood experiences of being unloved?  What if this process of gathering ideas and theories is nothing more than a broken psyche looking for answers?  Like a body-builder pressing twice his weight because he's insecure about his image.  He has the support of the gym community and looks set to make a career in weight-lifting comps but the whole ordeal is based on a mental problem and is in fact not his true calling.  What if my scholar-ideal is the same thing?  Then it follows that all these signs I perceive that I am to write and teach are not divine guidance but my own illusions?  So you see, I am having difficultly locating the real me apart from the broken me...

I do know, however, that there are problems in the above thoughts.  I am sure life is more complex than it seems and there are a vast array of possibilities.  It could very well be that this search for wholeness does lead me "into my correct fate."  Regardless of my environmental adaptions I might very well have been the scholar type anyhow.  People did say that as a child I displayed tendencies that hinted at such a vocation.  I was inventive, creative, intelligent.  There are negative manifestations of this though, like the business entrepreneur who wins success because he needs to prove to his father that he can "be somebody."  I don't know though.  What I am saying is that there are many possibilities that I need to be open to.

Then there is the issue that this is all a manifestation of a deeper level of doubt.  This level is concerned with trusting oneself and their interaction with the process of life.  This is me not looking for outside authorities on my own life but looking within.  The trouble I'm finding is discerning what is true intuition and what is fantasy.  What is really guiding me and what is my desires/hurts leading me astray?  Do I in fact require someone older and more experienced to guide me inbetween these two influences?  Can I really trust myself or is the unconscious more complex that I realise?  If individuals are left to themselves can everyone's psyche really lead them to liberation without outside influence? 

These are questions I am asking myself and currently working through.  It is a matter of building a sense of self and then letting it be eroded and rearranged as one opens themselves up to more of the mystery, unfamiliarity, and complexity of the psyche.  Reconstruct and deconstruct.  Hypothesis and test.  Fail and try again.

Anyhow, now returning to those feelings of love.  I believe I felt communal love for the first time in a long time the other day, on St Patrick's Day actually.  I had done some work, I can't quite remember; clearing, or writing, or something like that.  I had read about the need for that feeling of connection and had gone through the reasons while I feel so unworthy much of the time.  Through understanding it I gained temporary release from the usual feelings of inadequacy and thus anxiety.  Two of my room-mates and one other were cooking lunch in the kitchen.  I went out and became engaged in conversation.  Not being anxious and thus not feelings threatened like I usually am (and thus not on the "fight of flight" alert) I was able to relax and actually enjoy conversing.  I suddenly felt a warmth from them and a sense of inclusion.  I felt so grounded and wholesome.  Other housemates were moving around and I had the feeling of a happy, busy household full of love.  I went to have a shower and it had just been used before me; instead of feeling annoyed it was pleasant and warm to be in that room, with the remaining scents of the person previous, like I was back in my heart.  This feeling of social connection and happiness last an hour or two before wearing off slowly in the afternoon. 

This was a feeling of love and community that NEVER occurred in our house.  My housemates are kind and mature and once I could accept their presence their openness allowed for strong feelings of communion and social connection.  In my family there are always disputes under the surface; hungry and insecure egos propping up their banners; entwined and conflicted histories; and my own unresolved familial complexes.  So to experience this sense of belonging and acceptance I had to find it in another group that wasn't my family.  And who said the family is supposed to provide this stuff?  Not mine.  It so nice to realise that these feelings could be had and that part of the problem was that I blocked them (my family environment clearly contributed to my walls of defence).  So that was a new and unexpected experience that has provided me with direct knowledge of what it feels like to have those circuits connected in the brain (the ones I want to connect with inward love) and I will use the memory of that feeling to direct me as I go forward.

Another interesting experience was my third (as far as I can remember) realisation of "satori."  The first was in 2009 after reading Tolle and that "no time for karma" ebook.  The feeling of carelessness actually contributed to me giving up school at that time.  The second time was while I was driving out of town to clear me head - I actually started crying it was so insightful.  And the third time was a couple of days ago.  I had just smoked a cigarette, and it must have been something to do with the nicotine that just made me so clear and present.  Before smoking I was obsessing on some issue, going over and over it in my head, getting bogged down in detail, when I felt myself moving beyond the thought.  I, again, woke up to the awareness that I was and moved beyond thought.  When I tried to think about it and the "I" and "me" identity came back in I realised that wasn't me.  I was able to discern between the me that thinks and the me that observes the thinking.  This brought GREAT peace and felt all the pressures and weights of my problems be released.  It was very, very relieving.  I was so happy afterwards that I became kind of manic.  I was like a young child again, singing and talking happily with people, and dancing around the place.  I was reminded not only about the nature of consciousness but also about a part of my personality that is often hidden.

This time, however, instead of turning (just) to Tolle to get some theory on the experience, I went deeper.  I found Sartre has explored the same ideas and experiences of consciousness and come to the same conclusions as me (but at a far more advanced stage and in far greater detail - the basic and foundational ideas are the same though).  In the introduction to his main work, Being and Nothingness, it is written: "the consciousness which says, 'I am,' is not actually the consciousness which thinks. Instead we are dealing with a secondary activity," and "the pre-reflective cogito [is] the primary consciousness" (xi).  When you observe an object usually you are non-reflectively conscious of you awareness: i.e. "I see a chair."  When you reflect on the act of noticing chair, you realise you are aware of the act of observation.  However, this awareness of yourself now posits your-self also as an object.  (Self means here the sense of yourself, your ego.)  Thus to consider yourself you must create an image of yourself, an "I," that is then able to reflect of the act of observation.  Therefore it follows that the primary consciousness is the "pre-reflective" consciousness, it is a "non-positional self-consciousness."  It is not a thought form, which is always an object of consciousness and thus secondary.  It is the underlying awareness: we cannot say "I am conscious," only "there is consciousness;" not "my consciousness" but "consciousness of me."

These ideas seem to me very similar to what I know of Zen Buddhism (through Alan Watts).  Consciousness, Sartre writes, determines the state, and the state determines the ego.  The ego stands as the ideal unity of all my states, qualities, and actions, but as such it is an object-pole, not a subject.  It is the "flux of Consciousness constituting itself as the unity of itself."  I have observed this in myself.  There is an inner urge or feeling first, which words then convey with the added subject-prefix of "I."  For instance, whilst walking to uni I anticipated the crowds I would soon have to manoeuvre through.  Carrying an existing anxious reaction to this I felt a resistance towards the thought form of "walking through crowds soon."  This was a spontaneous feeling of consciousness that first imagined the future and then reacted against it - I suppose it was emotional.  The feeling was then expressed through thinking as "I hate walking through crowds."  Thus it was the expression of unity (in this case, of states) through a constructed "pole" of "I."  Aversion and inclination (pain and pleasure) seem always states of consciousness that determine our path through "the world" and the totality of our past aversions and inclinations are expressed through the ideal union of the self as ego.

To reflect on the world and comprehend it from a stable viewpoint Consciousness creates an object of itself (held together by memory and habit) known as "me" and "I."  "The 'I' is the ideal unity of actions," writes Sartre, "the 'me' that of states and qualities."  Over time this way of thinking (or "being") gets stronger, more "natural" and automatic, and the constructed sense of self more easily identified with.  Sitting outside smoking that cigarette I was reminded of the reality outside my constructed sense of self and it was like being raised out of a thick fog.  I image my ego is stronger than others too become of obsessive patterns of thinking and my crippling complexes.

Because of this extra reading I believe I have a better understanding of how "consciousness operates in me."  With Tolle I felt one had to reject the ego, like it was "fake" and thus "negative" and needed to be "transcended" (which for me, in practice, meant ignored).  However, now I really do see it as a tool.  It is a way of relating the experiences of consciousness with and through the world.  It is a hypothetical person for ease of interaction and comprehension.  It is almost like the ego for was a sphere of smoke, floating in front of me, tangible enough to use but intangible enough to remember that space between it (the object) and consciousness (the subject).  So I believe I am on the way to relating to it better now.

The trouble is, of course, turbulent emotions which initiate re-identification.  I used to think how terrible it would be to let go of attachment to ego only to have your life fall to pieces and then, through emotional re-attachment, have the experience all the troubles of the degenerated situation.  I had a hard time the other day staying in that state of "non-attachment" (for lack of a better term) because my attachment to emotions is so strong.  An analogy would be trying to recover the peace of a meadow as tornadoes rip through it.  My method for dealing with these "interruptions" is the inner psychological work I'm performing.  It is a slow-process but working through the complexes gives me insight into their nature and allows me greater perspective on the way my personality has developed. 

This work on the things that interrupt the spontaneous flow of consciousness are poured back into the development of the ego which eventually, I assume, sits (or floats) quite stable.  Thus the ego is developed and the awareness of pre-reflective consciousness recovered.  I am not sure what the later entails.  I haven't read that far into Sartre.  I do believe though, that his position is that the ego limits the possibility of consciousness to act spontaneously and thus if the subject was no longer hypnotised by the ego it would spell the freedom of consciousness (the question is: what would then arise?).  Tolle's answer is similar but is clothed in religiosity.  The freedom of consciousness to act in the present is enlightenment and out of that state of being (shared by humanity) a "new earth" would arise.  You can see him practising this spontaneity in interviews actually (he pauses for a while before answering).  But I want to understand Sartre so I have a lot more reading to do.

Anyway, the third experience of "satori" and subsequent research has definitely advanced my understanding of the matter.  And I am eager to explore it further.

There are many other things I would like to cover.  I have starting reading more seriously, no only Sartre but others as well.  The thing that worked for me was carrying a pencil around and writing and underlining text right in the books.  I never bothered to read as much as I'd like because I knew I would forget what I learnt if I didn't write it down.  However, then the act of reading became too intense because I'd have to transcribe everything I read onto paper.  Writing in the book, however, provides a summary and highlights important points whilst I read, and so this has increased my motivation and dedication to read.  I am also starting to write ideas down as they come to me.  It started by putting an A1 piece of paper on my desk and jotting things down then needed.  But I have also started using an A4 lecture pad and I am using it thoroughly.  This is all to do with connecting ideas and starting to form a body of work that unifies the understandings I am uncovering. 

I am also starting to accept that I am "shy and introverted."  It has taken a while but I am allowing my aversion to certain activities and kinds of people to be okay.  So I feel I coming more into my self; like my ego is becoming more authentic. 

There are a few other things but I have exhausted my self-reflective capacities for today.  I also feel I am becoming too detached from my "felt self-knowledge" and thus starting to intellectualise too much.  I do, however, stand-by all I have said, but any definitive statements should read more hesitantly and any apparently now conquered new "states of being" understood as offered me a small taste.  Already I have re-attached to my ego and have bought many sugary items from the supermarket.  My queries of doubt may have already been replaced by self-involved ideas of importance.  The past week was a taste of new levels of being that will be explored in the coming months.

Another thing, I feel like I am writing to a large readership.  Maybe one or two will most likely read this.  However, I would write this even if no-one read it.  I do get sucked into the idea that I have something to say though.  It is something I am working on.

If you have gotten this far, thanks for taking an interest.  Loneliness is a bane and companionship such a blessing.  I have been writing for five hours straight and it feels good to get this out.  The internet is kind of a surrogate listener for the lonely, I think.  I don't even imagine it being public, just personal.  Somewhere I can talk and someone will listen, who ever they are.

Anyway, au revoir.
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« Reply #113 on: March 23, 2013, 01:46:27 AM »
What do you think meditation is for?                                      Detachment - NO.

Meditation is the best kind of treatment (psychic renewal) to be able to understand You & to deal with the world around/inside You.

If you return to Your Self, re-New Your Self, re-New Your mind, You will EASILY deal with Your psychological process! This is what the Science of Consciousness is for.

Consciousness the ruler of Your Self, ruler of Your Mind, the Pineal in the CENTRE of Your Head - where the psychic processes go on!

Here's a good vid on PSYCHOLOGY.

78A Buddha Ten Worlds Of The Mind




So, what he's saying is, you will flit from one psychological aspect to another, at the drop of a hat or stub of a toe , your very own merry-go-roller-coaster.

Depending on your conditioning, some psychological aspects will dominate others, but there are 10 basic aspects that we all have, to differing degrees. The ten interact with each other constantly, this is the nature of mind.
The message from Buddha, Krishna, Bible, Bhagavad Gita etc is, that if YOU want to understand YOURSELF, then YOU must RENEW YOUR MIND. You will keep on encountering the same shit-filled scenarios until YOU, 'alter' YOUR own programming.
 
ONLY YOU can rewrite YOUR program, taking entheogenic substances can help to a degree, but only daily sustained meditation will 'hardcode' your mother board.
 
Only YOU can heal yourself, or would you prefer a psychiatrist, with his own thoughts, drugs & agenda?




After about 15 minutes he explains conscious/subconscious relationship & the effects of meditation on mind & hence it is literally our ONLY REAL CHOICE IN LIFE! ie. to light the lamp which is your Pineal or walk around in the dark as blind automatons!

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Thanks Dor, I'm getting into Bill Donahue's stuff a bit more now.

From what I understand, part of what he is saying is that consciousness determines the state one is in.  In my previous post I wrote about the findings of Sartre, about the ego being an object of reflection produced by consciousness (the actual subject).  As experiences are filtered through the conscious mind various reactions to stimuli (either external or internal) are stored as unconscious aversions or inclinations.  When these reactions re-manifest themselves they are thought about in terms of ego - as "mine" or "me."  Thus our sense of self, "I" is produced by the unconscious, and any "mis-interpretations" continually re-emerge through consciousness (experienced as ego and expressed as action, emotion, thought).  It's a process of looped feedback.

Donahue says a similar thing using slightly different terminology.  He says the subconscious is programmed by the conscious mind (and its perceptions) which in turn programmes the conscious mind.  Again, a feedback loop.

He says counselling won't help though, because all the "stuff stays in there" and you need to let a higher power in so the other stuff can go out.

I don't know if I agree with this.  I think that maybe your complexes and patterns of emotions can be transformed within the psyche.  By seeking to understand how they arose I can deconstruct them and start to resolve them.  An example is with my father.  I didn't feel loved by him as a child so have had problems with my self-esteem.  Through learning to love myself I can forgive him and that is resolving the feelings of hatred I've had towards him. 

It is a lengthy process though, and there is still the possibility that it will turn into something more profound.  I also feel like I am dealing with giant dark forces that could be more complex than I currently assume.  That's the funny thing, if your conscious mind is only 10% (your unconscious 90%), and you think you own consciousness and ego is quite vast, then consider the unconscious being 9x greater!  (Just a joke.)

I don't see a psychiatrist btw (only for adhd).  Though I do see a psychologist somewhat regularly and we talk and she points out my blindspots and we have fun.  I find it very beneficial and no drugs are forced down my throat.  She is very respectful and when I mention I feel I have low-level depression she asks whether I'd like to consider any antidepressents and I say no because I find the moods useful as signalling systems and she agrees and we continue our dialogue.

Donahue recommends Carl Jung by the way, who informs a great deal of my approach.  I find that interesting.

I need to watch and read more of his stuff before discussing things further.

Thanks though - good links!  (And he has a ton of videos  :blah:)
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« Reply #114 on: March 23, 2013, 02:07:00 PM »

Thanks though - good links!  (And he has a ton of videos  :blah:)

Yeah, I've downloaded about 150 vids - viewed about 20/30 so far.

I think what Bill says about the 'stuff still staying there' could be true, intellectualising & resolving 'stuff' might just be glossing it over - however accomplished & finalised it seems? - shit tends to stick & resurfaces during emotional upheaval.

There's so much of your previous post (at 12:34:20 AM), that I could personally identify with, I love the clarity in which you write.

I liked the 'pine-cone' snippet - the answers are right at your feet, so to speak!

You do come across as the scholarly 'type', I think teaching/researching is definitely your 'calling'.

I'm sorry if I sound a bit patronising at times (not just the last sentence).

My brain's being a bit stingy with thoughts right now, sooo ....keep up the good work! ;D











 
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« Reply #115 on: March 23, 2013, 08:00:07 PM »
After getting overwhelmed with Sartre and Jung, and reading over non-e's "breaking the seal" post, I think I'm going to scale back a bit.  "Lower my frequency" to more psychological and mainstream matters.  I'm just not ready for those more complex matters and those larger questions.  I still have a very anxious mind and the more I stimulate it the more rough and exhausting the ride is.  When I consider existential questions and my life's vocation I get lost; when I focus on the here and now I can make progress.  I need to take it one step at a time, one foot in front of the other.  The horse before the cart.  So I'm going to re-focus and give myself more of a fighting chance.

Dor, it's good to here you got something out of my post.  I didn't really expect that to be honest (I thought people might find it mildly interesting).  Like I said at the end, that feeling of human connection is so powerful, so thank you for reading and commenting.  I appreciate your words, and I don't find you patronising (?), only impassioned. 

Regarding teaching/researching I don't know..  Maybe I just have to accept what I've become.  I don't feel like I have choice anymore because the inclinations/aversions are so strong.  Once you start seeing things in a certain way it's hard to go back. 

It is different here in Australia as well, it is mostly and generally a "working class" culture, especially in my (rather rural) city, so it is hard to meet people I would actually enjoy spending time with.  I would just love to find people on my level, that share my interests, that see things similarly.  I get along with the tutors at uni far more than the students.  I just don't know where find those people + my shyness and introversion get in the way (dislike of social events, boredom with small talk, preference for small groups, etc.).  It is unbelievable the percentage of people in my classes who either don't give a shit about their studies or don't bother to try.  It's disheartening but perhaps there are others I've overlooked.  But I have days where I am sick and tired of the feeling of alienation.
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« Reply #116 on: March 24, 2013, 08:50:19 AM »
Thanks for your continued sharing, Roo. I appreciated reading your entry from yesterday. Your writing technique & skills are pretty awesome.

I also relate. What a strange thing, culture. Or perhaps more so what a strange culture. I find myself in a sub culture yet nonetheless still influenced in part by the main culture. Do you have any thoughts on our species near (next 5 years) future? I'd be interested in hearing if you're interested in sharing.

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« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2013, 07:24:45 PM »
The words that stick out are: culture, sub-culture, and near-future.  Leading on from what I wrote in your blog Evo, if the "trouble we are having" comes not from a conspiratorial organisation but more of a "shared way of seeing things" (a dis-ease of the mind) then we can work more constructively towards creating and promoting a new way of being in the world (instead fighting a centralised power).  I have said for a long time that change starts from within and right now I think it will be that inner focus and awakening that will direct such "projects." 

Gabor Mate has done a lot of work on addiction and he believes that our leaders are "addicted to power."  Thus they are not psychologically whole and so cannot truly bring about the change we need.  It follows that the same would apply to most who seek positions on power in politics or business.  Another perspective (can remember the reference) made a good point that also those is power, along with most of the upper-class, are too comfortable to drive social reform, and that those in lower-class are mostly limited by the focus on surviving. 

Thus change will have to come from the middle-class, and from people who aren't addicted to power - change will have to start (after the individual has done the necessary inner work) from the level of community.  I think this is what you were nudging me towards understanding Star Shine?  I don't think it unlikely that a new way of thinking and being in the world we ignite simultaneously in communities internationally and that right now some people are having this same conversation in Dutch.  I do think it will be connected to the mainstream and will have the feel of permanent reform and not be seen as "alternative."  I don't know how but it will involve a change in consciousness.  I have no clue what it's manifestations will be.  And I don't whether it will take 5 years, 20 years, 50 years, or a century. 

Of course this is just a theory based on a intuition and perception.  It will involve countless individuals united through complex networks and will operate of the level of community upwards.  And it must involve some kind of inner "enlightenment" - some kind of realisation of psychological wholeness on the part of those involved.  It can't just be the creation of a new power hierarchy that leads to the same conditions we have now.

What do you think Star Shine?  Anything to add?

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« Reply #118 on: March 26, 2013, 11:53:46 AM »


Enjoying the sharing and perspective as well, Roo. Have you checked out the atman project (ken wilber)

Was perusing over the weekend and kept cross referencing concepts that appear to be in line with things that you've brought forward and have been discussed imo
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« Reply #119 on: March 26, 2013, 07:30:28 PM »
Thanks non-e, looks great.  Really appreciate the recommendation.

What do you think drives some people to write and publish their findings, and others, perhaps more experienced, to sit more quietly in the background?

I always think those that are teaching must still be learning things themselves..

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Some that teach are still in the process of learning.  Eastern gurus like Krishnamurti are perhaps expected to assume the role of teacher, and biography would of course also influence inclinations.  Others, however, come across as very preachy, and one wonders whether their need to "save" others is an expression of their own doubts in their ideas (they feel more secure when supported by others through imitation). 
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