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[Earth.Angel]

So what's your view's on awareness altering substances? Mine is simple: It's all good if it's grown - if it's not, it's still good I don't really enjoy chemical drugs except LSD. Besides the natural "drugs" actually, what do you think? I know the mind is incredible & is capable of changing the molecular composition of anything, therefor I do not believe any harm comes from smoking, drinking, drugs etc (especially drugs because it's not a daily habit for me!). But I am in a relationship right now that's so anti drugs, even the good erb - and he argues even taking a "drug" once in a blue moon is bad in the long run and that no healthy relationship has ever survived with drugs involved hhmm.. He reckons I haven't seen true beauty without drugs and wants to "save" me. I thought my brain was meant to be the messed up one lol So views would be good just out of curiosity I keep being told my theories are bullshit, even the mind & water experiment  Much love to you all man,

[Peace]

Hi EA, <3 to you!

I personally believe that your theories are strikingly valid in that they are your own unique views and realizations and many would respect and value your beliefs and not see them as any better/worse than their own nor would they try to convince you theirs are better. DMT is naturally secreted from our pineal gland pre-death and pre-dream as THC is also found within our bodies. To say that expanding ones consciousness via a mushroom trip every blue moon is ''bad'' and that one choosing to do such is ''missing out'' is displaying a very closed perspective IMO. To each their own, I can't knock him for feeling that way as I am sure he is having a wonderful experience without the use of drugs.

Really, bullshit That sounds kinda harsh to me. Good luck with that.

[Earth.Angel]

Thank you Qemist 

DMT is naturally secreted from our pineal gland pre-death and pre-dream as THC is also found within our bodies. To say that expanding ones consciousness via a mushroom trip every blue moon is ''bad'' and that one choosing to do such is ''missing out'' is displaying a very closed perspective IMO.

That kinda info I like seeing because it's solid, something he can go google properly

He literally said Bullshit lol maybe I should have used a not so PG13 word 'Tis harsh having my views disrespected. Fair is fair, I saw his view which isn't concrete IMO but it's valid non the less. So it would be great if he understands mine because my greens and my mushrooms are a part of me Something can only ruin your life/relationships if you choose to harbour such energies. He said if I continue my life will end up going down a tragic road  I'm laughing it off, going to need that luck of yours 

[Peace]

YW. I really do not believe in luck but figured I'd throw it out there for the hell of it.

A tragic road??? hahahaha!! thanks for the laugh!!! LOL LOL - If that's the case I'm SO doomed!

Teach/Learn - Learn/Teach - much to be said there.

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I think drugs are here to show us what's possible. They open up the doors of perception but are by no means the only way expanded awareness can be attained, however, one must ask if we would ever have become aware of these wider states of consciousness without them. Maybe the question is void simply due to the nature of evolution.

Hmm synthetic vs natural - different sides of the same coin.. find whatever suits.. Personally I do not think I would ever take a synthetic drug again (such as LSD) but that's just preference.

I think we evolved from plants and therefore are one with them. To not only shut out the experience of ingesting psychedelic plants but to label people who do so as "damned" reveals huge amounts of ignorance IMO. Concerning cannabis, shrooms, and ayahuasca, they are a gift from the plant kingdom, a extension of the unity of all things, and are to be respected and used wisely. Indigenous cultures have a symbiotic relationship with these plants and recognise that all the plants are trying to do is to impart wisdom and insight. It is a hand in hand thing.. helping each other, helping the one..

Not everyone needs to take such drugs to "evolve".. maybe it was necessary for only some to take them..

With cannabis, check out a video titled "Cannabis, the evil weed?". Here's a link I found:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTM2ODc3OTY4.html

And a review of the documentary: http://ukcia.org/wordpress/?p=53

Isn't it funny that the cannabinoid receptors (designed specifically to bind with THC) began their evolution before the existence of the cannabis? Could it be possible that plants such as cannabis are actually parts of our mind, of ourselves? Questions I am beginning to ask..

 

Watch the documentary its great!

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I've said this before (recently): anything has the potential to effect us in both polarities! With your greens, sure they could harm you if used inappropriately (either through over-use, or taking them whilst in a "foggy" mindset, taking them with people of lower vibrations, or in a unfavourable setting) or could be greatly beneficial if used appropriately! It's up to you! What do you want them to do? But know that there is extensive evidence supporting the potential value of the use of such substances - not least of all from the indigineous tribes of the world.

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A lol at "John" in the documentary - he escapes the root of his problem by placing the blame on weed. It ain't the plant it's the pysche.

[ORion]

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'snow problem lol

[Earth.Angel]

Agree with you there R00. Wouldn't be on this path if it wasn't for drugs. First I experienced the extreme bad vibes of life with drugs and then the extreme goodness - Now I can truly appreciate the good because of that contrast! I can attain altered states of awareness without drugs and without much effort too. But there's just something so beautiful, potent and spiritual to say the least when preparing and taking your greens etc. I don't abuse it. I respect it's power greatly. It's a positive experience!! One to grow from. And one that makes me feel an intimate connection with Gaia and all things in existence. Same with LSD which I hardly ever take, just because shrooms are more magical and easier to recover from but ya get my point  I never once suggested he take it with me to experience what I do but he still accused me of almost derailing his life's purpose - to free the world from drugs. Isn't that a lil unrealistic? We are incarnated to experience, those people chose to go through those realities, how ever messed up or great they may be. Why go try change their evolutionary paths 

I think we evolved from plants and therefore are one with them. To not only shut out the experience of ingesting psychedelic plants but to label people who do so as "damned" reveals huge amounts of ignorance IMO. Concerning cannabis, shrooms, and ayahuasca, they are a gift from the plant kingdom, a extension of the unity of all things, and are to be respected and used wisely. Indigenous cultures have a symbiotic relationship with these plants and recognise that all the plants are trying to do is to impart wisdom and insight. It is a hand in hand thing.. helping each other, helping the one..

Not everyone needs to take such drugs to "evolve".. maybe it was necessary for only some to take them..

Love that!  One love man, one love. I definitely think I needed to experience evolution through drugs in this life time, as well as addiction. And yeah wow that is funny, learnt something new today thanks R00! Am questioning that now too But I believe we are all one anyway  Will watch that documentary soon, sounds good hehe!

But know that there is extensive evidence supporting the potential value of the use of such substances - not least of all from the indigineous tribes of the world.

  Yes!

A lol at "John" in the documentary - he escapes the root of his problem by placing the blame on weed. It ain't the plant it's the pysche.

Omg that is true! The main reason people take drugs is to escape their negative reality but because they are still in a bad mindset, it becomes a curse and a problem instead of the blessing it should be and is*

Hehe ORion, that's thee cutest picture I have seen in a long time ^^, Thank you for that!! <3

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Yeah I know alot of us needed some type of drug to trigger our awakening.. I starting questioning things though before I took LSD.. but I took weed before all that maybe as more of an expression of my reistance to the norm? Or maybe to detach from reality? Either way, one thing led to another, which was disillusionment of the system and rememberance of the primacy of consciouness.. I think ones who have a hard time on drugs have an unique case.. Because the "truth" was revealed to me but I was still too identified with my ego to understand it and this strong attachment to form led me down a dark road of intense fear and confusion.. but at least I had something to aim for, however vague.. so, after realsing I could no longer handle drugs, I had no choice but to take the journey sober, and so while I could have been "enlightened" 3 years ago through drugs, I ended up taking a detour, and it is just simply interesting.. necessary? I don't know.. it definitely stemmed from my inability to let go though.. regardless, drugs really are the "red pill", and something that alot of us agreed upon taking as a trigger..

You boyfriend's mission it to rid the world of drugs huh? Well, here is just one lateral interpreation of that: You boyfriend's task could be to help the world transcend the need to take drugs to enter higher states of consciousness. But to do that he will need to first raise his own consciousness. To that he will need to be in full acceptance of what is. With this realisation the angle changes and instead of looking down upon his fellow beings because they use drugs he will lead by example and show them what is possible. With this approach he just may "free the world from drugs". But then again, he could just be kidding himself. At the least the above interpretation shows how linear and dualistic thought patterns can evolve into higher expressions of oneness.

Much love Earth Ange through reading all your posts since you joined l I think you intuitively understand a hell of alot!

[Earth.Angel]

Likewise about the questioning even before drugs, resisting the norm and wanting to detach myself from reality I haven't been able to look back into my past and search for those finer details of the where exactly, the how and why's. But I know I have fed all that "negativity" if you will, with love and it's been released. The important thing for me is being here, I made it. I read between the lines!

You boyfriend's task could be to help the world transcend the need to take drugs to enter higher states of consciousness. But to do that he will need to first raise his own consciousness. To that he will need to be in full acceptance of what is. With this realization the angle changes and instead of looking down upon his fellow beings because they use drugs he will lead by example and show them what is possible. With this approach he just may "free the world from drugs".

That's a very good interpretation roo, I haven't been able to think about it that way! Still expanding greatly in terms of releasing linear and dualistic thinking But I have been wanting him to have that full acceptance of what is so I am halfway there. I always say everything happens for a reason because every moment is perfect and every moment is manifested by spirit, so it was a conscious creation whether you know it or not, whether you like it or not. He disagrees completely with that still except for the self manifestation part. He also thinks perfection does not exist because in the pursuit for it humanity ended up in this "lower vibration". So I reckon he still has some DNA embedded issues to deal with, and I want to more than anything, help him on the path back to light because I didn't have that physical someone alongside me when I had to go through the fear and pain.

Because of our views being vastly different and his inability to just accept what is happening, globally, he has broken up with me twice - because of fear. He's intimidated by me and can't believe someone can love him and compliment his being the way I do. But we are looking at 3rd time lucky now - because something is keeping us together and it's impossible being apart. Soulmates IMO and his but that's another story So I feel it's one of my purposes to get him out this rut so that he can truly make a difference to the world. He is a Scientologist so his views on life etc are similar but still vastly different.

linear and dualistic thought patterns can evolve into higher expressions of oneness.

For sure, reading this just took my breath away 

Thank you so much roo, Much love always! <3* Your input has helped a lot in shifting the uneasiness of my situation into a better place I can work from - Have always been able to step away and solve a problem from a distance but not this time. You have a truly enlightened understanding & grasp of things 

[Earth.Angel]

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Cool!