Our Planet Frequency Change 3rd to 5th dimensional planet

[no fear]

Our Planet Frequency Change 3rd to 5th dimensional planet | Diana Cooper of A New Light on Angels

[shiva]

the angels and unicorns are coming to the 5D earth paradise...remain complacent new-age followers and open your ASTRAL/4d/Green heart center so the 6-11 dimensional FALLEN entities can fool you with high levels of CONDITIONAL love/ bliss....or do your inner work and open your HIGHER heart chakra..the 8D -thymus gland TURQUOISE chakra, which opens when your 5,6,7 chakras have been WORKED THROUGH and you won't fall for the new-agey 5D earth TRAP that so many new-agey preachers are fooling people with....mostly unknowingly as they are trapped in the ASTRAL/GREEN/4D deceptive heart naivitee...

here are some tips to awaken from the cleverly laid out new-agey/illuminati religion

Alan Watt: Shock And Awe - The Manipulation Of The Human Psyche part-1of5

[OVERTone]

^I have to confess i'm wholly ignorant of the dynamics you mention here, can you fill in the gaps for me.

My ignorance has led me to think my heart was the gateway to myself in entirety, although that is impossible because entirety sounds a bit like there is a boundary, a place where i'm not, all limitation.

Nowhere is Now!

[shiva]

"just follow your heart" makes a nice bumper sticker and gives people great comfort as it seems so simple,just follow what FEELS good to you,right?....just as people "follow their hearts"..."fall" in love and vow in their marriage vows withALL their hearts because they perceive that they KNOW and FEEL IN THEIR HEARTS that  they will be with their heart love "till death do them part"...and in most cases they will either divorce or remain together because they have gotten used to being semi-happy/miserable...

when we do our inner work and open and purify our 5,6 and 7th chakras we THEN can begin to tune in to TRUE LOVE and HEART,the HIGHER HEART,8th dimensional heart/thymus..which is not always "unicorns and angels" but also TOUGH LOVE which means standing up and speaking some very uncomfortable truths that the new-agers and their astral heart love WILL NOT FEEL GOOD ABOUT and hence they will say you are spreading FEAR....bottom line,don't fall for the 5D earth complacency program the deluded new-agers are pushing,you will FEEL and sense and see how that is a delusion when your 5,6,7th chakras open and activate...concentrate on being WHOLE and not stopping at the 4th chakra...when your third eye begins opening (6th chakra) you really SEE what the agendas in the new-age communities are about,not pretty

[OVERTone]

"just follow your heart" makes a nice bumper sticker and gives people great comfort as it seems so simple,just follow what FEELS good to you,right?....just as people "follow their hearts"..."fall" in love and vow in their marriage vows withALL their hearts because they perceive that they KNOW and FEEL IN THEIR HEARTS that  they will be with their heart love "till death do them part"...and in most cases they will either divorce or remain together because they have gotten used to being semi-happy/miserable...

when we do our inner work and open and purify our 5,6 and 7th chakras we THEN can begin to tune in to TRUE LOVE and HEART,the HIGHER HEART,8th dimensional heart/thymus..which is not always "unicorns and angels" but also TOUGH LOVE which means standing up and speaking some very uncomfortable truths that the new-agers and their astral heart love WILL NOT FEEL GOOD ABOUT and hence they will say you are spreading FEAR....bottom line,don't fall for the 5D earth complacency program the deluded new-agers are pushing,you will FEEL and sense and see how that is a delusion when your 5,6,7th chakras open and activate...concentrate on being WHOLE and not stopping at the 4th chakra...when your third eye begins opening (6th chakra) you really SEE what the agendas in the new-age communities are about,not pretty

You make so many presumptions I don't know where to start.

[OVERTone]

The words 'line', 'hook' n 'sinker' spring to mind!

& DORRAH!! $$$

Let me guess, you have to shell out, when it's time to move on to the 'next level'?


I see just fine. 

[shiva]

yeah see how you REACTED  to my post..it has obviously taken you out of a comfort zone,why else would you react like that?...it doesn't have to cost you anything but there are teachers out there who need money to live and their info can be very helpful

lol..the marriage example isn't very good ,I admit but maybe you can see the deeper point...

as for the "presumptions"...that is an important point to make,question all the presumptions the new-age preachers make regarding the 5th dimension,2012 and the 5D earth theories as well...the biggest presumption is that the 5D is a pure realm of no deceptive beings or distortions...

.the more you work on purifying your higher chakras the more you will TRULY be able to feel TRUTH

[Bullseye]

Yeah! Don't listen to your heart. That devious son-of a bitch is probably lying to you anyway. You love to throw out that "New Agey" stuff, like everybody is new age but yourself. Just exactly where do you classify your brand of dogma? New-New age. Where have I heard all this bullshit before? "You're not going to ascend if you don't follow my guide lines to a tee". Oh, and by the way, just send a little money while you're at it.

Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?

Groucho Marx

[OVERTone]

yeah see how you REACTED  to my post..it has obviously taken you out of a comfort zone,why else would you react like that?...it doesn't have to cost you anything but there are teachers out there who need money to live and their info can be very helpful

lol..the marriage example isn't very good ,I admit but maybe you can see the deeper point...

as for the "presumptions"...that is an important point to make,question all the presumptions the new-age preachers make regarding the 5th dimension,2012 and the 5D earth theories as well...the biggest presumption is that the 5D is a pure realm of no deceptive beings or distortions...

.the more you work on purifying your higher chakras the more you will TRULY be able to feel TRUTH

Late Dinner!

See there ya go again with all your presumptions.

 - you clearly are sold, hence my 'reaction'!

"it doesn't have to cost you anything but there are teachers out there who need money to live and their info can be very helpful"

It does'nt seem to be helping YOU! ^^

peddling labelled horse shit, my eyes have seen beyond your little dimensional games, I have experienced first hand, face to face, the Solar Logos & so died!

Then the Alpha & Omega played out before me (in a split second), I literally saw the galaxy, fish/serpentlike ourobouros et al.

I use to see electric blue light daily, now it's predominantly violet n black n gold - mean anything to you?

 

[dcdaveclarke]

There's always someone who's saying im wright there wrong! look over here dont listen to him! im the way an the light if you listen to him hell drag you into his cult an you will be fucked!
only listen to me because i no its all wrong out there dont be deceived ill show yea the way just follow what im saying an you will get to heaven...

Sound familiar?

[angelite]

when we do our inner work and open and purify our 5,6 and 7th chakras we THEN can begin to tune in to TRUE LOVE and HEART,the HIGHER HEART,8th dimensional heart/thymus..which is not always "unicorns and angels" but also TOUGH LOVE which means standing up and speaking some very uncomfortable truths that the new-agers and their astral heart love WILL NOT FEEL GOOD ABOUT and hence they will say you are spreading FEAR....bottom line,don't fall for the 5D earth complacency program the deluded new-agers are pushing,you will FEEL and sense and see how that is a delusion when your 5,6,7th chakras open and activate...concentrate on being WHOLE and not stopping at the 4th chakra...when your third eye begins opening (6th chakra) you really SEE what the agendas in the new-age communities are about,not pretty

So how can you be so sure that many of us have not already opened and activated these chakras and have seen through the illusions you speak of, Shiva?  I see others agendas everywhere and so choose to follow my own, inner knowing.  I certainly don't buy the fluffy bunny shit nor the scare tactics of those you choose to follow and I will be just fine. 

I would still love to hear, as others have requested before, about some of your OWN actual experiences, to understand you a little more.  You tend to ram your beliefs down our throats quite a lot and it can be quite tiresome.  It appears that all you do is push others agendas down our throat.  Are you sure you are not on Ms Dean's payroll?

I would really love to hear more about YOU and what YOU have experienced and why you are so certain that what she preaches is the truth or do you just blindly follow her and believe her truth is your truth because you have not had any real experiences of your own?  I would really like to know!

    

[floop]

think with your heart; feel with your head

It seems, shiva, that certain aspects of your constant warnings of the "false new age" are valid (as I've recently realised) but that you are stuck at a certain level of understanding.  It is not linear for me and I am continually filling in pieces here and there and revisting old territory, but I know there is more to reality than your posts over the last year or two would have me believe.  The lines are blurred and what that means is that to disregard everything being spoken of under the banner of the "new age" shows much ignorance as many ideas viewed from a higher perspective as opposed to a lower perspective are in fact spot on.  I am saying this in reference to the general content you post and not to any one post in particular.  I think this distortion is the reason for your condescending tone ("I understand what's really going on, listen to me all you lost fools") - ie because to you all "new age" concepts come under the same banner and you believe the new age is a deception and so we are ignorant.  But what if some of us were further along in the "true awakening" than you are?  What if there are certain parallels between the "true awakening" revelations and the "false new age" revelations and that the same concepts if understood from a higher perspective and used from a place of pure intent and true knowingness are actually very closely aligned with the "truth" or "the facts".  Yes it seems that there are entites in the astral pulling "lightworkers" off their path and yes there are disclosure conspiracies, but there is a much larger "truth" that awaits one further along the path which grants one an even higher perspective that you are seemingly currently displaying (many things are contained in this "higher perspective" not least of which are some compassion and understanding for and of your fellow beings and the realsation that all perspectives no matter how narrow are subjectively valid).

I am still very much a freshman and may be speaking out of line here - I have my own path and am working through my own lessons - but the ideas I just presented have stuck out for me and needed to be expressed.

It's good to see you offering us your personnal opinions btw instead of ignoring everyone.

[shiva]

it's about CONTEXT Roo,of course I don't think all new-agey ideas are false,just as I don't think all religious ideas are false...but the mainstream new-age is basically another religion..the CONTEXT here is this classic new-agey preacher speaking of unicorns,angels and the 5D earth escapist stuff

...and religions are CONTROL systems...the new-age is about keeping people in a fog of complacency and wishful thinking in almost all cases...even those new-agey teachers who understand some of the biggest pitfalls in the new-age movement STILL end up just making people happier within the prison walls...they don't provide info and techniques that show there is a prison and how to free themselvesd from it...keep questioning and seeking bigger truths and watch as the most popular new-age movements and teachers lose their followings as the light of truth washes them away in the near future...

the roots of the new-age movement are discussed here...and almost ALL new-agey teachers are still teaching the same distortions now...lots of escapism.5D earth,2012,Maitreya,saviours from space."just go in to ypour heart".you name it,those same basic superficial platitudes are being propagated by Mainstream new-agey teachers now

DECEPTION PROJECT pt16 - zeitgeist one world religion scam (they are misleading you) & jesus christ

I have started a new thread so people who really want to consider what the new-age movement is largely doing with people have some food for thought...

[dcdaveclarke]

I dont know any member here who is a New Ager do you ?

[spiritrebel]

why do other creatures have the strong urge to convert others into what they believe be "the truth"? is it maybe they're just looking for validation outside of themselves? i think trying to convert someone is blatantly distasteful and irresponsibly irrespectful of the existence of others and their free will... the spanish conquistadores converted the indians in central and south america and parts of asia with the thought that "los indios" were barabaric, uncultured and not divine. now, is the catholic church not barbaric in the first place by murdering the "unbelievers"? enough is enough... no one has the fucking right to tell me the proper way to meditate, the perfect time to meditate, the holiest place to meditate and most especially what to meditate! it's still a planet of free will and im free to be me...

ps. dear fearmongers, i admire that ur trying ur best to scare the shit out of me with mind-control schemes but this just doesnt work for me anymore.

[digitalrasta]

Lick your finger and stick it straight in the plughole of all of creation, hair on end, eyes buggin, smile splitting face.
Mainline the universe.
When one sees, there's no need for methods, just the dance.
I like it here coz there's no new age bullshit, just a lot of free thinkers far more advanced as evidenced by their hyperbole than any clown who has ever formulated anything into any kind of codification or egocentric and hardly coherant youtube vid.

[Aarde(Earth)Man]

Haha digi that just made me smile ^_^


Peace   

[Evo]

[non-e-raygun]

 It has been of value IMO to revisit some of the posts of yester-forum and to evidence the growth since such previous postings. Time and space may be an illusion albeit a potentially valuable system of tools/workings

[D'or]

 It has been of value IMO to revisit some of the posts of yester-forum and to evidence the growth since such previous postings. Time and space may be an illusion albeit a potentially valuable system of tools/workings

Yeah, I'll try to check my sensitive ego at the door! ^^