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collapsing the system
mtntop:
Blah blah blah.
Roo:
Another trollish member, great...
ohmybearhands:
--- Quote from: Roo on September 23, 2011, 10:59:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: starchild212 on September 23, 2011, 09:38:57 AM ---PLANT FUCKING TREES AND RELEASE THE FUCKING MARIJUANA HOSTAGES!!! GO ALL OUT
--- End quote ---
I'm not seeing any peace and love in this video. As a friend, I am suggesting you to do things the "establishments'" way for a while, and see what happens. Yes this means following their rules. Yes this means not planting things on council property. But it should give you some time to examine yourself psychologically and allow yourself to heal and to feel better than you ever have. Then you can plant those things in national parks - remember? There is a proper way to do things bro. The best way to defeat the system is to work from within it otherwise you just make it your enemy and thus create more conflict.
Don't keep doing this shit. It's not worth it. Prison ain't worth it. Do what they say for a while and see what magic can occur.
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hey roo, i'm not trying to blindly hate like that other guy, so i hope this doesn't seem like i am.
but what i don't agree with is your statement "The best way to defeat the system is to work from within it.."
from personal experience and a logical viewpoint, the system literally cannot be "defeat"ed from within. A system has parameters, like a computer program, and those parameters keep the system alive, and keep it from being defeated from within.
sure, you could change the system from within, that is entirely possible and happens all the time as evidenced by our changing status quo.
but in my opinion, the system doesn't need any more incremental changes. we need no more "system."
and that, is very difficult, if not impossible, to do from within.
Evo:
[thought] Is not loss found in victory? Victory in loss? To what end? [/thought]
:bjump:
Roo:
--- Quote from: ohmybearhands on September 29, 2011, 06:32:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Roo on September 23, 2011, 10:59:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: starchild212 on September 23, 2011, 09:38:57 AM ---PLANT FUCKING TREES AND RELEASE THE FUCKING MARIJUANA HOSTAGES!!! GO ALL OUT
--- End quote ---
I'm not seeing any peace and love in this video. As a friend, I am suggesting you to do things the "establishments'" way for a while, and see what happens. Yes this means following their rules. Yes this means not planting things on council property. But it should give you some time to examine yourself psychologically and allow yourself to heal and to feel better than you ever have. Then you can plant those things in national parks - remember? There is a proper way to do things bro. The best way to defeat the system is to work from within it otherwise you just make it your enemy and thus create more conflict.
Don't keep doing this shit. It's not worth it. Prison ain't worth it. Do what they say for a while and see what magic can occur.
--- End quote ---
hey roo, i'm not trying to blindly hate like that other guy, so i hope this doesn't seem like i am.
but what i don't agree with is your statement "The best way to defeat the system is to work from within it.."
from personal experience and a logical viewpoint, the system literally cannot be "defeat"ed from within. A system has parameters, like a computer program, and those parameters keep the system alive, and keep it from being defeated from within.
sure, you could change the system from within, that is entirely possible and happens all the time as evidenced by our changing status quo.
but in my opinion, the system doesn't need any more incremental changes. we need no more "system."
and that, is very difficult, if not impossible, to do from within.
--- End quote ---
I didn't mean my statement to be taken literally. Neither of us have defined our terms so we could be referring to different things. I am not a revolutionary nor involved in politics / economics / social justice etc, only voicing my beliefs in a veiled way.
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