Author Topic: Explanation for loss and New back up (Read 2438 times)

Davidjayjordan · « **on:** March 19, 2009, 11:47:04 AM »

Greg, good to see you back on line.

But could you give more details as to how you could have deleted a data base mistakenly. Always a computer asks you twice before deletions are made.

Invaluable materials may have been lost.... you gave exceptionals hyperlinks that you may never recover and to which we may never see again. besides, us posters, me included invested a lot of serious time and energy in explaining details of 2012 in our mimds, and these posts may also have been destroyed or deleted forever and lost. Its hard to reconstruct a building, once the inspiration has been lost.

Is there any quarantees it shall not happen again ? Is there any new back up plan, so that posts can no longer be deleted by mistake ?

Should we invest more time HERE and then be discouraged when it disappears.

To me it is more than a mere inconvenience, but time wasted. And time is a factor as we near closer to 2012.

Hoping to hear from you on this.

David

gene · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2009, 04:58:14 PM »

stuff happens.

even God makes mistakes!

QuiggleLo the Clown · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2009, 05:05:31 PM »

yeah, look at rosie o donnel..

CSIWEMBLEY · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2009, 05:06:33 PM »

Quote from: QuiggleLo the Clown on March 19, 2009, 05:05:31 PM

yeah, look at rosie o donnel..

who?

QuiggleLo the Clown · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2009, 05:15:17 PM »

this site hit the golden age, and all of past was soon forgotten
we should lookin to the future and leave the past a rottin
meybe its a metaphor meybe this is something more
i feel not the need to question though oppertunity is at my door

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2009, 06:04:04 PM »

Quote from: Davidjayjordan on March 19, 2009, 11:47:04 AM

Is there any quarantees it shall not happen again ? Is there any new back up plan, so that posts can no longer be deleted by mistake ?

Should we invest more time HERE and then be discouraged when it disappears.

To me it is more than a mere inconvenience, but time wasted. And time is a factor as we near closer to 2012.

Hoping to hear from you on this.

David

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Maybe you should ask the all mighty lord
to take over as the database technician. Either that or just learn how to accept.
Here's a hint, If you want to be more like Christ, learn some patience.

Davidjayjordan · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2009, 09:05:16 PM »

Mockery is hardly beneficial to a new board, especially if someone like Jesus is being criticized. Jesus never wasted His time, nor wanted his people to waste time either.

As mentioned Greg, can you tell us why or how the database got erased accidently. It might encourage us, more to POST again.

The posters that give one word or one sentence replies might not have been offended by erasing their one worders but others might have wanted a better explanation.

Greg are you there.

Justin Thyme · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2009, 09:58:38 PM »

Quote from: Davidjayjordan

As mentioned Greg, can you tell us why or how the database got erased accidently. It might encourage us, more to POST again.

Check the other threads in "Introductions". There are comments about it there.

ORion · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2009, 01:11:23 AM »

Quote from: Davidjayjordan on March 19, 2009, 09:05:16 PM

Mockery is hardly beneficial to a new board, especially if someone like Jesus is being criticized. Jesus never wasted His time, nor wanted his people to waste time either.

As mentioned Greg, can you tell us why or how the database got erased accidently. It might encourage us, more to POST again.

The posters that give one word or one sentence replies might not have been offended by erasing their one worders but others might have wanted a better explanation.

Greg are you there.

Blah.. It's all in the past, just let it go and look forward

ThatsWhatIsaid · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2009, 02:40:30 AM »

We were at a golden age on the forum. An encyclopedia of knowledge few would have ever laid eyes on. I feel privileged to have taken the time and really soaked everything in.

Blue4eyes · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2009, 07:50:33 AM »

Quote from: QuiggleLo the Clown on March 19, 2009, 05:15:17 PM

this site hit the golden age, and all of past was soon forgotten
we should lookin to the future and leave the past a rottin
meybe its a metaphor meybe this is something more
i feel not the need to question though oppertunity is at my door

I so agree I would find it refreshing to see the more current things happening or newer material out there. It would be nice for the older stuff to be there for back reference but at the same time...... Just kinda feels like a fresh start

Also Gregg we all here know you have placed the most time and effort into this forum not to mention finacial contributions. I can't imagine how frustrated you were at the loss of all you have worked to compile. I thank you for not just throwing your hands up in the air and saying screw it. ( I would have

) Such Great things have happend in my life since I found this site and would be devestated if it was gone forever. :'(

As for David I find this post to be rude, disrespectful, and just down right arrogant. I have posted in the older forums about not endulging David, (which even I slipped a couple times) and I suggest others do the same. I'm not saying don't respond.... just respond when it is of a positive message

Ultimately this site to me has been a place of love even when we disagree, let the past be the past and the future be the future LIVE IN THE NOW!!

Aarde(Earth)Man · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:26:16 AM »

Would'a, could'a, wanted to make a backup of the forum. Isn't hard with a good program for it. Too bad no one nor I did anything.

Anyway, the repetition of finding and saying everything once more will only make you remember it better.... See it as a big exam xD

Peace

Davidjayjordan · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:38:31 AM »

Quote from: ThatsWhatIsaid on March 20, 2009, 02:40:30 AM

We were at a golden age on the forum. An encyclopedia of knowledge few would have ever laid eyes on. I feel privileged to have taken the time and really soaked everything in.

No offense, but the golden age for you to bask in the Sun could have helped others after you if it had been kept and saved and still been on-line for them. We should not be concerned just about ourselves. If things were said that were true, it would have helped others.

How can we be sure or reassured that this same supposed accident, will not happen again. Why waste or words, and time and effort if no lessons have been learned. Why can;t a simple explanation be given rather than silence.

Why wasn;t there a back up. I thought all forums and major discussion groups backed up their forums and discussions. ?

Davidjayjordan · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2009, 08:45:34 AM »

Quote from: Blue4eyes on March 20, 2009, 07:50:33 AM

Quote from: QuiggleLo the Clown on March 19, 2009, 05:15:17 PM
this site hit the golden age, and all of past was soon forgotten
we should lookin to the future and leave the past a rottin
meybe its a metaphor meybe this is something more
i feel not the need to question though oppertunity is at my door

As for David I find this post to be rude, disrespectful, and just down right arrogant. I have posted in the older forums about not endulging David, (which even I slipped a couple times) and I suggest others do the same. I'm not saying don't respond.... just respond when it is of a positive message

Ultimately this site to me has been a place of love even when we disagree, let the past be the past and the future be the future LIVE IN THE NOW!!

Its not rude to ask for a simple explanation for reassurance. And blue eyes, I am never rude. I am not the toipic of this thread, the one being asked a reason or reassurance is Greg. Why can't he respond to a simple question.

It isn't reassuring, so far. I like more than one liners.

And as I mentioned, I thought a lot of his hyperlinks were excellent, and as a researcher I know how difficult it can be to gather information. It is not as easy as some of you imagine. Greg, must have spent a lot of time researching this topic, so I say the loss is monumental, and so hoping for a better saved plan of hyperlinks and information gathered is hardly a rude comment but is geared for helping the most people possible. We are not suppose to just bask in some idealism that comes and goes. I would have thought this forum should last up and to 2012 as a help to others as we near that date.

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:21:07 AM »

Quote from: Davidjayjordan on March 19, 2009, 09:05:16 PM

Mockery is hardly beneficial to a new board, especially if someone like Jesus is being criticized. Jesus never wasted His time, nor wanted his people to waste time either.

As mentioned Greg, can you tell us why or how the database got erased accidently. It might encourage us, more to POST again.

The posters that give one word or one sentence replies might not have been offended by erasing their one worders but others might have wanted a better explanation.

Greg are you there.

I was certainly not criticizing Jesus. Nobody can determine the outcome of an undertaking like this. It is a microcosm of existence. There are no guarantees on this level. You can put your time and efforts into writing on this forum only to have a mistake happen. That is the way it is. I'm sure that Gregg does the best job that he can and he is not a robot who is infallible when pushing down computer keys. It appears to me like you are seeking this absolute security that on another level you associate with Jesus. Have you ever thought that your true security comes from inner peace and acceptance of the way things are. If God has a plan for everybody, do you consider yourself so divine that you can see it. People on this forum give you much of their time, love, knowledge, and you reject it because you don't see it coming from the lord. I do not mock the Christ seed in you. I mock the ignorance of your lower self who speaks of Christ and ignores him when he speaks to you directly. We are all created in the image of the God and all contain the Christ seed within. You are my brother and I love you as I love myself and as I love someone who could be looked at as an enemy, although there are no enemies where I AM.
You spout out excerpts from the bible as if you have figured out the mysteries and to this comes mockery. Just because you see it differently from me doesn't mean that I am wrong and It equally does not mean that you are wrong. I can accept and listen to your opinions and not judge you for it. There is no judgement where I am. However there is much cause and effect in this dimension and maybe it would serve you to see it for what it is. Maybe you can't see "Jesus" in the flesh, but that certainly doesn't mean that I can't and just because you think that you are being mocked doesn't mean that Jesus and I aren't laughing about it waiting for you to see the point of the joke. I will not hide from the face of the Lamb as we already see eye to I. Peace and understanding be with us. -non-e

adeline · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:28:15 AM »

people tend to look for answers to their questions outside of themselves, but in fact, we have the answers within us all. We build great cathedrals, some are destroyed, lives are lost, but life moves on. don't depend on other people's input on thinking or perception of realities, or else you have given up your true natural right, which is to make a choice for yourself.

Qafahr · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:38:25 PM »

Quote from: adeline on March 20, 2009, 11:28:15 AM

people tend to look for answers to their questions outside of themselves, but in fact, we have the answers within us all. We build great cathedrals, some are destroyed, lives are lost, but life moves on. don't depend on other people's input on thinking or perception of realities, or else you have given up your true natural right, which is to make a choice for yourself.

+1 karma!

Wisdoms Child · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2009, 04:18:52 PM »

Quote from: adeline on March 20, 2009, 11:28:15 AM

people tend to look for answers to their questions outside of themselves, but in fact, we have the answers within us all. We build great cathedrals, some are destroyed, lives are lost, but life moves on. don't depend on other people's input on thinking or perception of realities, or else you have given up your true natural right, which is to make a choice for yourself.

Yes the essence of reality is there with in.

One may search all the books and websites of the world and on and on........ and on................

AND

still find that they are out there still looking. :'(

The rumor that the answer is out there is just a rumor created to distract one from that which one already is and always has been.

Peace and blessings as we are one.

ivytub · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2009, 05:24:32 PM »

Is there a way for me to tag a post for me? That is, so that when I log on I could find those posts that I have tagged - resonated with me? Maybe that's a feature that already exists. Can someone let me know?

Namaste · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:50:55 PM »

I have a recent backup of the database but I couldn't figure out how to use it once I deleted part of the root folder.

I tried:

repairing the tables through phpMyAdmin

uploading my backup through my file manager

using the repair_setting.php module

As a last resort, I completely deleted the root folder and uploaded a new forum, hoping I could reinstall the backup. As it turns out, there IS a way to do this but it's beyond my computer skills. I was told:

All you need to do is change the server settings for the new installation so that it calls your old database. You can do this in SMF admin or by manually editing Settings.php. Either way will work, as long as you get it right. I advise having a backup copy of Settings.php downloaded to your desktop, just in case.

If I could figure out how to do this, I could retsore the original data base. If anyone knows how to do this, PM me.

Davidjayjordan · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2009, 10:46:41 AM »

Thanks for the reply and answer Greg.

And hope someone will be able to help with this.

As I do think the past POSTS and hyperlinks were well worth keeping for those that are after us.

Now on with 2012 in the Here and Now and afterwards, and as we continue on, hopefully a method or someone will retrieve what was already posted.

ATB

(All the Best)

David

PS) See Brethren, a simple question and a simple response by Greg.

But a few of your hearts did come out.

ORion · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2009, 02:49:02 PM »

Quote from: Davidjayjordan on March 21, 2009, 10:46:41 AM

Thanks for the reply and answer Greg.

And hope someone will be able to help with this.

As I do think the past POSTS and hyperlinks were well worth keeping for those that are after us.

Now on with 2012 in the Here and Now and afterwards, and as we continue on, hopefully a method or someone will retrieve what was already posted.

ATB

(All the Best)

David

PS) See Brethren, a simple question and a simple response by Greg.

But a few of your hearts did come out.

God bless all

CSIWEMBLEY · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2009, 02:51:53 PM »

do you not also have a backup of the root folder Gregg?

(from a system backup?)

Namaste · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:44:56 PM »

Quote from: CSIWEMBLEY on March 21, 2009, 02:51:53 PM

do you not also have a backup of the root folder Gregg?

(from a system backup?)

I do now

Qafahr · « **Reply #24 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:56:48 PM »

After 3 days of hard work we failed to restore the old forum. I think I spent 20 hours total and learned alot

There was a chance of getting it back, but the missing database I needed was deleted when this forum was created :'(

as a last resort I even had a chat with the support, but they told me the database was wiped off the servers.

So the 'backup' I made, is the backup we have.
If someone missing info it can probably be taken from the backup
(but there is many threads missing. The topic of all thread's is still there so maybe you can figure out what you posted, and find it again)
(just make sure Gregg has not post it allready..use search button)

I think Gregg did a fantastic job putting it back...and he probably has an unofficial Guinness record in post's/day now

I uploaded the old forum here(snapshot/frozen in time)
the server is not the fastest/best..but i got this place for free
and hopefully they don't kick me out

you can't login = you will come back to this forum, so view it as a guest.
http://maya2012reloaded.netau.net/2012forum/index.php

and if you want to download the backup(in rar format, you need Winrar)
http://maya2012reloaded.netau.net/oldforum.rar

/Qaf

no fear · « **Reply #25 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:20:36 PM »

Quote from: Davidjayjordan on March 20, 2009, 08:38:31 AM

How can we be sure or reassured that this same supposed accident, will not happen again.

This has been a learning experience for me. I thought the forum was backed up, but it wasn't. Qafahr has taught me a lot about how to properly back up a forum, which I've done. Eventually, all servers go down at some point. This has happened twice with my server and eventually I'll get a second server so that won't happen again. As for the content, it'll never get lost or accidentally deleted ever again. Lesson learned

Quote from: Davidjayjordan on March 20, 2009, 08:38:31 AM

Why wasn;t there a back up. I thought all forums and major discussion groups backed up their forums and discussions. ?

As mentioned, I did back it up on several gzip files, but apparently I was backing it up incorrectly. Qafahr has been of great help to me in showing me how to properly back up the forum so this issue will never happen again.

I spent countless hours getting the forum back up and running because it means that much to me. This forum is an awesome meeting place for like-minded people who share a common bond. I'm just glad it was restored to what it is versus completely losing everything...

no fear · « **Reply #26 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:26:26 PM »

Quote from: Qafahr on March 24, 2009, 03:56:48 PM

After 3 days of hard work we failed to restore the old forum. I think I spent 20 hours total and learned alot

There was a chance of getting it back, but the missing database I needed was deleted when this forum was created :'(

as a last resort I even had a chat with the support, but they told me the database was wiped off the servers.

So the 'backup' I made, is the backup we have.
If someone missing info it can probably be taken from the backup
(but there is many threads missing. The topic of all thread's is still there so maybe you can figure out what you posted, and find it again)
(just make sure Gregg has not post it allready..use search button)

I think Gregg did a fantastic job putting it back...and he probably has an unofficial Guinness record in post's/day now

I uploaded the old forum here(snapshot/frozen in time)
the server is not the fastest/best..but i got this place for free
and hopefully they don't kick me out

you can't login = you will come back to this forum, so view it as a guest.
http://maya2012reloaded.netau.net/2012forum/index.php

and if you want to download the backup(in rar format, you need Winrar)
http://maya2012reloaded.netau.net/oldforum.rar

/Qaf

I can't thank you enough for all of your help bro

ivytub · « **Reply #27 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:36:46 PM »

Gregg said: "I spent countless hours getting the forum back up and running because it means that much to me."

Thank you so much for your work and for your thoughts Gregg.

Gregg said: "This forum is an awesome meeting place for like-minded people who share a common bond. I'm just glad it was restored to what it is versus completely losing everything..."

I couldn't agree with you more.

dcdaveclarke · « **Reply #28 on:** April 02, 2009, 02:45:35 AM »

Quote,non-raygun (If you want to be more like Christ, learn some patience.)

And some forgiveness

CSIWEMBLEY · « **Reply #29 on:** April 02, 2009, 08:38:00 AM »

the world just wouldnt be the same without http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/

Davidjayjordan · « **Reply #30 on:** April 02, 2009, 11:14:27 AM »

Quote from: gene on March 19, 2009, 04:58:14 PM

stuff happens.

even God makes mistakes!

Nah, yet because He is not a control freak, does let His creations make them to teach them that they are not God.

Thanks for showing your mistake as an example

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