Ascension??

[digitalrasta]

Scuse the attachment, couldnt get it to paste.

[non-e-raygun]

I'm really glad that you have said these things. I have been waiting for someone to do this. It has needed to be done and now it is done. Direct and sobering. I've been here on this site since june of last year. I've said some pretty fantastic things and I believe them to be real. The thing that I have noticed about my own transition is that I am able to be completely objective and see the vision of things for the way they are which is constantly changing. One thing that happens when you glamorize things is that you are projecting an escapism by separating yourself from first source. Anything that is not attainable in the "now" will continue to be so. Many people view the superpowers they will have after the ascension. The ascension is now. This is it. You are ascending. All of these vibrations are but a part of the sounds you hear when you are ascending. Don't hear sounds? No? So what. Your still ascending. The now is the now because it is the now. That's why. Looking to a future point instead of the now is a pitfall. A stumbling block if you will. The PTB can watch trends be set and influence them as well. This is not about tptb. this is simply putting out that we are the ptb
and if we give away personal power to the illusion than we can thank ourselves because we were the ptb. The most difficult part of this experience in my opinion is that there is a natural seduction to desire to be more than you are. We fill our heads with more we train our bodies to be more we work towards the spirit to be more present. I don't see anything wrong with this. It is human and we are all guilty of that one one level or another. The point is that not only is this the easiest part of the human psyche to manipulate, but it is also the innocence of the species and what propels the spirit. Desire. The subtle striving towards something in the pursuit of attaining that something. On the ascension path there are as many false prophets as there are in the line to test any of the religious minded. Many will seduce with promises of grandeure and a "new world".
There are many here that already have superpowers. There are many that are developing "powers", but how many people realize the power that they already have? I want to fully support the original post and stress that it is always important to be realistic. At the same time I see it as time to be unrealistic about what we are experiencing. Things are envisioned to be what they are. I believe that it is a time to Dream big and not close yourself off to being limited. If we are the ptb and We desire to create a new world than do would we "create" one that is like the one we know. And what exactly does that mean? Create a new world? Is it starting from scratch?

[non-e-raygun]

Ok. Now this may sound completely contradictory to this other post. I felt myself literally slipping away from what I was writing as I was writing it. My mind was changing. As I was writing this I was becoming distracted by a modulating frequency changing the colors of my environment. I have to change my mind and it seems to me like some type of internal system is in agreement. Something is changing and that is apparent. I can't speculate as to exactly what ascension means. I believe that it is a personal event that affects everybody individually while effecting the whole group. All I know is that I am catching glimpses of seemingly unreal realness and I'm feeling the tug like that is where I am going. I'm going to leave it at this for now because the unrealness is happening "now".

To be continued...

[Aarde(Earth)Man]

Nice post. Really something that resonates with this forum and it's people indeed.

Btw if you just change the font of the word file you can post it like normal.

[non-e-raygun]

I apologize for the strange post. It was if something didn't want me to finish that train of thought. I have to believe that there is a balance involved. If one goes off on the concepts of another than they will often find that their reality does not reflect what is written. However. My personal gut instinct is telling me that something big is coming and it is bigger than the scope of understanding. I am going to leave it at that and meditate on this until I have a clearer understanding of what to write here.

[dcdaveclarke]

You have a thought! yea put it down and a few hours later its all changed youve changed in just a few hours and this is getting faster an faster all the time iv noticed, so when you look back at some of our posts from the old forum up till now
you can see how much we all have changed in just a few months

[non-e-raygun]

You have a thought! yea put it down and a few hours later its all changed youve changed in just a few hours and this is getting faster an faster all the time iv noticed, so when you look back at some of our posts from the old forum up till now
you can see how much we all have changed in just a few months

This thought actually disintegrated as I was writing it.

[dcdaveclarke]

Its true !! your not joking its happening to me on a grand scale

[juliap]

[CSIWEMBLEY]

Scuse the attachment, couldnt get it to paste.

Scuse my stupidity? what attachment? I cannot find one

Ah! ASCENSION OR DECEPTION.doc?  ..... but i cant see it, i can only see that its attached in the MODIFY option

[Qafahr]

[CSIWEMBLEY]

thank you

[digitalrasta]

Hey non-e, I bet you used  to be indecisive, but now you're not so sure.

[non-e-raygun]

Hey non-e, I bet you used  to be indecisive, but now you're not so sure.

Leave me alone I'm trying to work here. 

[digitalrasta]

Of course! One needs to concentrate when trying to ingest ones own hand. :

[dcdaveclarke]

he looks constipated te me :

[non-e-raygun]

Of course! One needs to concentrate when trying to ingest ones own hand. :

How does one abstract a universal truth without devouring themselves in the process?

[:: OmNom CookiePie ::]

A really cool idea indeed :]

[digitalrasta]

Of course! One needs to concentrate when trying to ingest ones own hand. :

How does one abstract a universal truth without devouring themselves in the process?

Isnt the devouring the whole point?The snake keeps chomping until it dissapears in a quantum vortex of its own making and instantaneously gets reborn anew as a better version of the old snake.

[non-e-raygun]

Ok, time to tackle this post again. First of all I would like to state the importance of the original post. I completely agree with the main points of the post and I believe that the post is an essential one in the context of all of the posts in this forum. To me it represents the ever needed voice of reason. There are so many deep topics discussed on this forum that it is easy to get carried away on a flight of fancy. Aliens, gods, beings, universes, quantumness. All deep material in my opinion and there is nobody here directly holding our hands with the torch of truth. We are the torch. It is up to us to be the individual points of light that collectively act as a beacon of truth, hope, faith, compassion, knowingness, etc. When I originally read this post I was charged to see the voice of reason. I saw all of these points, but did not want to be the one to say it. I also wanted to see who would. When typing the response supporting the voice of reason I wanted to acknowledge and support the point of view being propelled forward. As I felt myself typing about not being caught up in the flights of fancy I felt myself being swayed because although I support the voice of reason, I feel an internal shifting that is moving towards a reality that feels beyond the world of reason as we know it. If the world has been created and destroyed multiple times by earth, air, fire and water then what would it be like to be bathed in aether? I know that I am rapidly coming back into my multidimensional context of self and that the process is growing more day by day. At this point in time many of us are aware, but we are not as aware as we will be if we stay on the path. Just looking within the context of the mayan calendar you can see that by 2011 that a new stage will be reached that makes the one that we are at now seem like baby steps in comparison. It is important to be guided by reason and to keep it with you in your sack of tools, however to rule out the possibility of this reality being so bathed in cosmic aether that all of this crazy shit busts out of it's shell is selling oneself short on what could be experienced. The key is in the balance. I believe the saying goes like this: "speak softly and carry a big stick". The soft voice is the voice of reason that sits in the back of your head to keep your feet on the ground. The big stick is what you use to scrape the shit off of the fan when it hits it. Be prepared. Leave no stone unturned, but always remember that the truth lies within you even in the now. We are all seeds that are flowering into beautiful plants that remain to be seen for what they are. Some of the material that you read and watch may be outlandish. That doesn't mean that it isn't true. It also doesn't mean that it is. Always take what resonates with you and leave the rest. A lot of the keylontic material resonates with me as I have experienced many of these things directly long before I had ever heard of any of these books. If you've never read a holographic disk or accessed the akashic records than it may seem crazy to think that this is true. It is more of the charts of planes of consciousness and time matrix that I can relate to. As I have stated. I have graduated from the war between the good aliens and the bad aliens concept. I'll tell you one thing. If I went through all of this duality in this lifetime and overcame it only to find myself on a spaceship going to fight aliens than I'm going to personally go to god and punch it in the fucking teeth.   Moving onward... ahem. I have also stated that I believe that this is nothing more than a game within a game that is here to teach us how to live, love, and discern our way through a time hologram on our way back to oneness. However that happens It is unimportant to me whether a unicorn flies by me and gives me an ice cream on it's way or not. Whether I can fly through space or whether reality is simply understood and universal truth revealed it is the same in my book. I am only caught by the experiences that I have had. I will leave this as this. If the world changes to encompass the realities that I have experienced than you better hold on to your hats because I can personally attest to being privy to the experience of extremely otherworldly realities. If you wore your spirit on the outside of your body then you would be living in a very externally spiritual world. If you wake up to the reality that you are dreaming while you are awake than will you not have the abilities that you have in your dreams? No matter what the truth is, the fact that it is present is key. The rest is up to you and remember to keep the voice of reason with you until it decides to jump out of your sack and tell you goodbye.

[non-e-raygun]

Isnt the devouring the whole point?The snake keeps chomping until it dissapears in a quantum vortex of its own making and instantaneously gets reborn anew as a better version of the old snake.

Indeed it is.

 And by the way, I used to be very indecisive, but I learned to swallow my pride along with my tail which allowed me to walk on land with both feet on the ground.

Thanks for the original post man.
Essential.
+Karma.

[digitalrasta]

Thanks for those thoughts dude. I know what you mean for sure. I have had experiences and visited places outside this present point of referrance and if it all becomes real then lookout infinity! I just think that all these experiences will happen in the here and now, Earths already existant 5D aspect will be revealed and become available to the "adept".

What really floats my boat is that in the right now, second by second, its the method that has power not the result, giving oneself over to ones inherant 5D aspect, spells a brilliant future no matter what it is. But as you say, if one is conscripted for KP duty in the bowels of some interstellar war machine then one isn't gonna be happy.

I often think, hey we're already 5D, prochronisms y'know, waiting for the whole race to magnify to give our already existant software the correct hardware for it to run properly. At the moment I feel like XP trying to run on Windows95, na wot i'm sayin.

[non-e-raygun]

Thanks for those thoughts dude. I know what you mean for sure. I have had experiences and visited places outside this present point of referrance and if it all becomes real then lookout infinity! I just think that all these experiences will happen in the here and now, Earths already existant 5D aspect will be revealed and become available to the "adept".

What really floats my boat is that in the right now, second by second, its the method that has power not the result, giving oneself over to ones inherant 5D aspect, spells a brilliant future no matter what it is. But as you say, if one is conscripted for KP duty in the bowels of some interstellar war machine then one isn't gonna be happy.

I often think, hey we're already 5D, prochronisms y'know, waiting for the whole race to magnify to give our already existant software the correct hardware for it to run properly. At the moment I feel like XP trying to run on Windows95, na wot i'm sayin.

Iknow exactly what your saying that is why i mentioned the holographic disks  .

Whether the rest of the reality is in 5-d is one thing, but many of us are already beyond 5-d and whether the aether, group  consciousness or a combination of the two brings it on, It seems to me like when the scale is tipped than the inner "garment" will become the outer "garment" Hence the shedding of the skin of the old snake for the coat of many colors.

Serpentium here we come.

[digitalrasta]

Waitin in the sun for a Spanish caravan
Solar eclipse and I'm feeling like staring man.

You did mention something I've often felt
Theres a lot of focus on 5D, on becoming. What a lot dont realize is that, that focus could be just another form of self control and editing. Why not 6,7,8, or more D, right now. I can only referance my own experiences and dont really bother with the esoteric research, I am That I am, but when I do read traits of other dimensionality I think "Why is a multidimensional consciousness having to experince the travails of this 3D reality"
Is what is occuring such an event that the populace and the planet are going to need corporeal 6,7,8,9, and more consciousnesses to make sure it happens properly (whatever that is)? I think so.

Surfin the rainbow

[CSIWEMBLEY]

hope you put sauce on that hand before consuming? :

[non-e-raygun]

Waitin in the sun for a Spanish caravan
Solar eclipse and I'm feeling like staring man.

You did mention something I've often felt
Theres a lot of focus on 5D, on becoming. What a lot dont realize is that, that focus could be just another form of self control and editing. Why not 6,7,8, or more D, right now. I can only referance my own experiences and dont really bother with the esoteric research, I am That I am, but when I do read traits of other dimensionality I think "Why is a multidimensional consciousness having to experince the travails of this 3D reality"
Is what is occuring such an event that the populace and the planet are going to need corporeal 6,7,8,9, and more consciousnesses to make sure it happens properly (whatever that is)? I think so.

Surfin the rainbow

According to what many sources say, the 5d thing is for people who are ataing Christ consciousness. Many on this planet are doing it for the first time. Many of the wayshowers have come from beyond 5-d. It is stated that 6-d is a group soul collective as well as many wanderers who are traveling freely. Supposedly 7-d does not require a body any more and it is time to move on to a galactic highway of sorts or even planetary consciousness. The whole 5-d focus is something that is being anchored here for earth's ascension. I don't think there is a rule that if things work out that way that you would have to stay here.

here are a few references. I believe we are experienced enough to figure out where we are going.

http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/index.php?topic=2506.0

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?category=Densities&start_row=90#Sixth

[dcdaveclarke]

We go there every time we sleep and when we die,we have many memories ,i think we'll just slip in naturally,because moving up to the event is slow enough for us to suss out whats happening inward or outward

[floop]

Interesting read after viewing the other recent ascension post.