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Who's afraid of 2012?
« on: June 02, 2009, 12:37:15 PM »
Who's afraid of 2012?
Plenty of folks, as it turns out. According to the ancient Mayans, Chinese sages and biblical prophets, Doomsday is just three years away.

By KAREN YOUSO, Star Tribune
Last update: June 1, 2009 - 3:44 PM

Did you know that Earth has an expiration date? Yes, it's Dec. 21, 2012. That's when life as we know it will end. Who says? The ancient Mayans predicted it, Chinese sages wrote of it and many Christians say it's foretold in the Bible. Go ahead, Google 2012, search for it on YouTube and learn. Or buy "The Complete Idiot's Guide to 2012," now in bookstores. You could wait for the movie; "2012" will be in theaters this fall. Meanwhile, look clued-in with a "2012 Doomsday" T-shirt (available in infant and toddler sizes, too). Basically, our days are numbered -- to 1,298 to be precise -- because a convergence of factors will result in the destruction of Earth: Extreme solar activity will peak just as Earth's protective magnetic shield is weakening, and there will be an alignment of planets that happens only once every 640,000 years. To top it off, the highly complex and accurate 5,000-year Mayan calendar comes to an abrupt end on winter solstice 2012. It all adds up to bad business for our planet.

"The odds of global destruction are projected at 94 percent," according to the website for the Institute for Human Continuity. It's working to ensure the survival of the human race beyond 2012. (More about that later.)

For those rolling their eyes, or maybe rolling in the aisles, harken to the words of science.

"There's no disaster coming," said Lawrence Rudnick, distinguished teaching professor of astronomy at the University of Minnesota, responding to fears of killer solar flares. Scientists aren't discussing 2012. There's nothing there, Rudnick said. It isn't even interesting. "We have plenty of real issues to worry about on Earth," he said.

It seems "The end is near!" is heard every few years. What is it about the apocalypse that we can't stop worrying about it?

"It's fear of death," said Harvey Sarles, professor of Cultural Studies and Comparative Literature at the University of Minnesota. Doomsday anxiety goes way back. It's a product of Western thought and religious tradition, he said -- basically, the stories of Christianity and Islam and the focus on death and getting back to heaven.

In times of strife or pivotal calendar moments, Armageddon fears gain traction. They're actually very appealing and comforting to some people, Sarles added.

Indeed, cataclysm and destruction predictions fit well with some Christian interpretations of the Bible's Book of Revelation, according to Sarles. The current financial upheaval, natural disasters, flu epidemic -- even the disappearance of honeybees -- are seen as runups to the main 2012 event, according to some Christian websites. They see the four horsemen of the apocalypse closing in, and they welcome it. The second coming of Christ is near, they believe, and they'll soon be a pile of clothes on empty shoes after they're Raptured.

But not all 2012 devotees are of the same mind. New Agers, such as author and professor Jose Arguelles, predict that "the end of the world as we know it" means that there will be a universal spiritual awakening. It isn't the end of the world, they say, but the beginning of a new and better one, which is an interpretation closer to what the Mayans believed. From troubled times will rise a new consciousness. Events surrounding 2012 are but the birth pains of a new age, the Age of Aquarius, at last.

Some scoff at the whole 2012 idea and predict a Y2K-style fizzle. Natural calamities and human strife happen all the time, and the Mayan calendar ending has no significance. It's just a calendar, they write in their blogs and websites. Like any other calendar, it ran out; time to get a new one.

Meanwhile, there's money to be made before the drop-dead date. There are books to peddle, bunkers to sell and TV shows to produce -- ABC's "Wife Swap" is looking for families that are preparing for 2012 for their "Wife Swap 2012 Special" -- and a host of movies to promote. In a slick marketing move, Sony Pictures created a very realistic organization and website -- the Institute for Human Continuity (http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org) -- for its movie "2012."

It's fake, but you wouldn't know it by the website. Besides sophisticated interactive disaster scenarios, it tells visitors that the institute has been working 30 years on preparation strategies and is now running a random lottery "to give all humans an equal shot at surviving." Sign up now, the site urges, and since it's one ticket per person, get the family to sign up, too. (The lottery is probably for free movie tickets.)

If you still believe that maybe this time it's different, that 2012 really is the end, don't be tempted to run up the credit cards or spend your 401(k) thinking you'll be expiring instead of retiring. A safer bet for winter solstice 2012 is that autumn will end, winter will start and it'll be cold in Minnesota.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/46650192.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsZ
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 12:45:09 PM »
Little repetitive, but interesting  ;D
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 01:01:46 PM »
Who's afraid of 2012?    Virginia Wolf? :D

                 
                          
 

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 04:25:05 PM »
Who's afraid of 2012?

The misinformed and the unconnected.
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 05:45:31 PM »
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Who's afraid of 2012?

TPTB

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 08:22:53 PM »
Has anyone ever seen a "change of consciousness" article in the media at all, or is it all discrediting  2011/2012 by talking about this destruction bollocks?
I find that when your objectively read articles such as these and think that people are taking it in as fact then people must be pretty stoooopid, the many inconsistencies and oxymorons are pretty bad journalism and should discredit the article immediately.
Not a word I heard could I relate but the story was quite clear

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2009, 08:29:32 PM »
Unfortunately at this point in the US, anyway, most people figure if it's written in print or seen on mainstream t.v. that it IS the truth.  Don't question ANY of it if it's a household name on the media.  Just figure it is a "reputable" source and accept the belief.  This will change...
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2009, 10:10:35 PM »
so many people are interested in this topic in my school, and i am trying to inform all of them that their is nothing to fear :)

To bad i am the only one :(



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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 02:28:54 AM »
Heavy is the head that wears the crown
Not a word I heard could I relate but the story was quite clear

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 02:53:23 AM »
Heavy is the head that wears the crown

Light is the soul that can see beyond the crap  ;D
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2009, 07:53:56 PM »
I am afraid of it nnot happening at all. : :( :o :'(

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2009, 07:58:52 PM »
I am afraid of it nnot happening at all. : :( :o :'(

Then start creating it. Then you won't be afraid.  ;)
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2009, 08:42:58 PM »
And you cant have fear to do the creating---ipso facto.
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 03:03:34 PM »
I'm with Eliza, but I agree with non-e-raygun. My biggest fear is that TPTB will still be doing what they are doing now after 2012. It's our job as the "awakened" to continue raising the vibration, using methods of "service to others" to increase the chances of moving from materialist-minded 3D into an accelerated state of vibration into 5D. This is why I ignore the mainstream 'doom n' gloom' scenarios of the western mind and focus instead on the indigenous visions of entering into a new world based on love and harmony. I can say though, that if nothing happens, we'll be in some serious deep doo-doo.

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 03:09:15 PM »
Heavy is the head that wears the crown

Light is the soul that can see beyond the crap  ;D

Hear hear. But whatever happens, just let it flow....what will be will be. Keeping positive always of course ;)

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2009, 03:09:37 PM »
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Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2009, 05:25:22 PM »
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TPTB

this is so true, more true than most folks would believe ;D

                 
                          
 

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2009, 05:33:37 PM »
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TPTB

this is so true, more true than most folks would believe ;D

so true its beyond true, it's real!

it's funny i never really looked at it that way but it does makes sense.

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2009, 08:16:01 PM »
Yeah, the more control methods they try to exert is inversely proportional to the amount of control they actually know thy have.

The old "Look over there while I do something mischievious over here" scenario.
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2009, 08:16:49 PM »
The phrase "tubthumping" comes to mind
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2009, 01:55:22 PM »

Hint: 'tub', in France is slang for penis. ;)

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Hint: 'tub', in France is slang for penis. ;)

Hint: 'penis', in Egyptian is slang for tub. :o

                 
                          
 

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2009, 04:41:32 PM »
Hey Hey Hey Hey

Hint:  the 'tub' in 'ivytub' has nothing to do with said 'dinglydangly thing'!
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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2009, 06:19:39 PM »
There was one line in that article where they said some people expect the same kind of non-event that Y2K was. Well, I believed in the Y2K patter because it was coming from some pretty well-credentialed people. It took me about a year and a half to start figuring it out (when not much happened.) The PTB co-opted it. There really was a problem, but the massive amount of computer fixes that were done took care of it for the most part (there were still some breakdowns that night, but only a few.) But by scaring the beejezus out of everyone, they managed a shakedown to get names on lists of people who might pay attention to warnings, did a dry run to find out what the public would do in the event of such an emergency, and got to play Peter and the Wolf with everyone, so now no one will listen to those who cried wolf during Y2K.

Now they are co-opting the 2012 date. Just like they're co-opting the "green" movement. And they co-opted women's rights. Join the fracas, raise their voices like they are "part of us," and then turn it into something to laugh at.  Make people slightly shame-faced to admit to believing it. Works every time.

Speaking of Peter and the Wolf, would anyone care to venture an idea about what the "moral" of the story is?

I'll bet if you answered in your mind, you came up with the moral being "don't cry wolf unless it's real, because if you do and it's fake, then when it's real, no one will believe you." Right?

Yep, that's what we were taught as children. Only, following the fiasco of Y2K, and then when I learned about Peak Oil and tried to explain it to my children (adults) who would not listen because, after all, I'd been dead wrong about Y2K - I figured out the REAL moral of Peter and the Wolf.

Think about it for a minute. Peter was bored on the hill while watching the sheep, so he cried out "WOLF!" so all the people would come running and entertain him. And, there was no wolf, so the people went away, disgruntled. Then later on, Peter got bored again, so he again cried "WOLF!" and the same thing happened.  Then, later on, the wolf came, but when Peter cried "WOLF!" - no one would listen, and the wolf ate up all the sheep because no one came to help chase it away.  Hmmm.....

Who lost the most?

Peter lost his credibility.
The villagers lost their sheep.

The revised moral of Peter and the Wolf: "Don't make assumptions that it isn't true, just because it's hasn't been true over and over in the past. Continue to pay attention or you might lose your sheep."

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2009, 06:41:46 PM »
I just don't see how Y2K can even be mentioned in the same sentence with 2012. Y2K was something conjured up by the PTB only a couple years before the event was to occur. 2012 is based on one of the most accurate calendars ever devised. And has predicted every eclipse and Venus transit in the last 5000 years. Pretty hard to ignore.


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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2009, 07:52:59 PM »
Aldeberan it doesn't have anything to do with reality and everything to do with perception.

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Re: Who's afraid of 2012?
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2009, 08:14:47 PM »
Who said anything about reality? It's all perception.