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"Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« on: April 16, 2009, 08:17:44 AM »


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This is a chart compiled by Iasos, based on Lyssa Royal's channeling
entitled "4th Density Relationships"
transmitted from the Pleiadians Germane & Sasha.
Click here to read the original channeling from which this chart is based.
Click here to go to the "official" Lyssa Royal website.

This chart is
A Sociological Comparison of
How Relationships can work.
Each column is considered a "package deal", in that each relationship usually functions
in terms of most of the characteristics of the 3rd dimensional version or the 4th dimensional version,
rather than a combination of both versions.

3-D
3rd-Dimensional Relationships
The way relationships normally work
with us here in our 3rd dimension.

SEPARATION
Separation is only an illusion.
Separation from the God Source.
Separation from each other.
And separation from aspects of our self.

SECRECY
Witholding information from my partner & from myself.
With secrecy, my partner never gets to know who I truly am. Keeps me separated from the greater portion of myself.

FEAR-BASED MONOGAMY
Through my monogamous relationship, I am "separated" from the vulnerability of having to deal with any other relationships.
Therefore, I feel "safe" (separate and safe).

CONDITIONAL LOVE
I will love you, only so long as you fulfill my needs and expectations. I will withdraw my love, if you do not satisfy me

COMMITTMENT
I need committment, in order to avoid my fear of having to deal with other relationships. Committment is a 3rd-dimensional illusion. Committment never insures my security. Committment only makes me think or feel that I am secure.

EXPECTATION
I want, expect, and try to get my partner to fulfill my expectations and needs. I use my partner to satisfy my needs.

MANIPULATION
I use obvious or hidden manipulation so that my needs will be met, and so that I can remain protected from my own fears.    I only see my partner as who I need them to be, not who they really are.

THE NEED TO CONTROL
I do not trust that everything that occurs is for my highest good. Therefore, I need to control and shape the relationship, so that it will take the form I wish it to be. I feel like I "own" my partner.

RELATIONSHIP takes Precedence
to PERSONAL GROWTH

DEPENDENCY
I depend on and need someone
outside of myself in order to be happy.

A PERSON CAN NOT FULLY LOVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
3-D emphasizes Duality.
If my partner begins to also love another person, that means he/she will have
less love for me.
(This is an illusion.)

My partner spending
LESS TIME with me
is not good.





4-D
4th-Dimensional Relationships
The way relationships normally work
on the 4th dimension.

INTEGRATION +  REINTEGRATION
Everything and everyone are really all connected.

HONESTY + OPENNESS
Total honesty with my partner.
With honesty, my partner gets to know who I truly am. Honesty means being 100% who I truly am.
I do not withold a comment or information just to avoid hurting my partner, or to control the relationship.
I can never really know or predict what will hurt another or how they will react to my honesty.
Therefore, I should stop assuming responsibility for the other person's emotions, growth, & reactions to my honest non-manipulative communications.

RELATIONSHIPS BY CHOICE
Monogamy-by-choice or
Polygamy-by-choice or
Poly-Fidelity-by-choice.
There is no inherent "right" or "wrong" to any type of relationship: They are all inherently neutral. Any type of relationship is "okay". If I choose monogamy, this does not mean that I expect or need my partner to also choose monogamy.

UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
Even if you don't fulfill my needs and expectations,
I will still love you. I love you for who you are without trying to change you.

BEING IN THE PRESENT
Committment would take me out of the present. I stay in the present, and I do not need a committment, because I trust that the future will take care of itself.

NO EXPECTATIONS
I trust and have no expectations from my partner.
I enjoy my partner, but without expectations.

ALLOWINGNESS
I allow my partner to be who they need to be. Only then can I see who they truly are.

ABSOLUTE TRUST
I trust that everything that occurs is for my highest good. Therefore, I have no desire or need to control my partner.

PERSONAL GROWTH takes Precedence
to RELATIONSHIP.

SELF-SUFFICIENCY
I recognize that I, and only I, am the creator of my own reality. Therefore, only I, am the generator of my own Happiness.

A PERSON CAN FULLY LOVE
MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
4-D emphasizes Multiplicity.
No matter how many other people my partner loves, this does not diminish at all, in any way, how much love he/she has for me. No matter how many other people I love, this does not diminish at all, in any way, how much love I have for my partner.

My partner spending
LESS TIME with me
is fine.
If I truly love myself unconditionally, then the time spent with myself is equal in value to the time spent with my partner.
I love myself as much as I love my partner.
Therefore, the time I spend alone is just as enjoyable as the time spent with my partner. Therefore, it's okay if I spend less time with my partner.

HAPPINESS, PLEASURE, & ECSTACY
There is never any pain, only happiness, pleasure, and ecstacy, when I function from
the 4-D relationships "mind-set".

ENDING A RELATIONSHIP
does not create PAIN & LOSS.
In realizing that this relationship is no longer serving us, we choose to harmoniously end it. We recognize that the relationship is going in different directions, and so we allow it to end, without any hard feelings. Only with love.

FEELING CONNECTED
to SIGNIFICANT OTHERS.
Even if my partner is far away (in space),
or even if
I haven't seen my partner for a long time (in time),
I still feel very connected to them. Whereas separation is an illusion, being actually connected-together is the reality.

ANGER AT MYSELF
(Internalized anger)
I am angry at myself for creating a reality that I do not prefer.

I CREATE MY OWN REALITY.
Self-Responsibility
Self-Empowerment
I create my own reality, and this even includes other people's reactions to my actions. I can never be hurt by another person. I can never hurt another person. Only I am responsible for my reactions to other people's comments or actions.

BEING RESPONSIBLE for
what I would like to GIVE to
My PARTNER & our RELATIONSHIP
I am pure in my intention in my relationship.
I am 100% who I truly am with my partner.
I am responsible for what, in my integrity,
I would like to give to our relationship.    

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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 08:26:35 AM »
Sacred Geometry is everywhere ;D

                 
                          
 

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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 08:29:18 AM »
Thanks for that non-e, very pertinent indeed. ;D
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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 09:49:19 AM »
Very concise, nice article, thanks!   ;D
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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 10:16:30 AM »
Thank you. This helps a lot. I was looking for this a year ago when I was dealing with the same issue :-).

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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 09:46:35 PM »
Hey!! Iv been living in the 4th Density vibe for 40 years and didn't know it , :o :o



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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 10:37:07 PM »
Hey!! Iv been living in the 4th Density vibe for 40 years and didn't know it , :o :o

Pertinent thing to say my man( bizzarely I typed mind instead of man there before correcting it! subconscious projection of you am I am we?). Most of the stuff on this forum is like"well thats just how it is" for me, not becoming but being. Anyone else out there been waiting for the world to catch up?
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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 02:04:22 PM »
Waiting for the world to catch up... wondering why I was born onto a planet that had no clue. Haha... that's why I'm here  ;D

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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 03:37:37 PM »
Waiting for the world to catch up... wondering why I was born onto a planet that had no clue. Haha... that's why I'm here  ;D

Many of us chose to "come here" to be wayshowers. It is a welcomed choice once one "wakes up to who they are and why their here".
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 07:05:02 PM »
Waiting for the world to catch up... wondering why I was born onto a planet that had no clue. Haha... that's why I'm here  ;D

Many of us chose to "come here" to be wayshowers. It is a welcomed choice once one "wakes up to who they are and why their here".

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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2009, 07:55:54 PM »
This is the type of article that I love!  On a 3D level, many will say there's no empirical data to support the article, but they just "don't get it"... at least for the time being, and that's okay.

How many times has anyone read an article or watched a video like this and said, "yep, I totally agree," knowing there wasn't enough information to prove anything, yet it resonated from within as the truth?  I think that's a major difference between 3d and 4d+ thinking.  You don't need the empiracal data in 4d.  It either resonates as the truth or it doesn't.
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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2009, 10:39:10 PM »
This is the type of article that I love!  On a 3D level, many will say there's no empirical data to support the article, but they just "don't get it"... at least for the time being, and that's okay.

How many times has anyone read an article or watched a video like this and said, "yep, I totally agree," knowing there wasn't enough information to prove anything, yet it resonated from within as the truth?  I think that's a major difference between 3d and 4d+ thinking.  You don't need the empiracal data in 4d.  It either resonates as the truth or it doesn't.

I totally agree. Pretty much EVERYTHING dealing with 2012 has just "resonated" with me, without any empirical data to back it up (before I did any research anyway)... and it can be kind of frustrating when trying to explain the concept to people who "don't get it" which is why I've given up-- and don't ever tell someone that "doesn't get it" that they "don't get it". That'll really piss them off.  :o

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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2009, 01:56:23 PM »
eye opening :o
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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 10:53:07 AM »
Hey!! Iv been living in the 4th Density vibe for 40 years and didn't know it , :o :o

lol... alot of us have!  In fact, I consider that there are beings from all over the universe, from all kinds of densities and dimensions here and now to experience and provide assistance to everything and everyone on this planet...

Here, the playing field is on an even level, yet it is amazing, being from all over, unique through where we've been and where we may be going, we influence each other more deeply than we see... our very presence, often without saying a word, affects our environment in strange and interesting ways sometimes... we come from all over, which is why people have so many varying beliefs and levels of understanding... and the beauty if it all is that no matter where you stand, you're getting something grand for being here... here, we gather the energies from the entire spectrum of living light... beings from 1d to 9d etc. are here, 9d learning from 1d-8d, 1d learning and growing from 2d-9d etc... life is all about Growth, and here the universe can all grow together...

The grand experiment, some call this earth... and many feel once their mission/life here is complete, they will go home back to their density/vibration/reality/dimension... expanding on that a bit, taking with them parts of the higher vibrations to their native vibrations so that their native vibrations can rise as well... we gather, for life all over... for the universe...

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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2009, 11:04:01 AM »
 8) ;D



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Re: "Comparing 3rd and 4th Density Relationships"
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2010, 12:53:54 PM »

And they stand,
seperated by mesh and lock.
Her eyes on the key holder, his eyes averted to the floor.
The door is opened and they embrace;
they laugh and smile.
Sleeping are their souls, so they take refuge in the flesh.