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What is the New World Order?
« on: November 04, 2009, 10:23:29 PM »
I open this thread not to directly question what is literally the theorized New World Order, but I open this to question what is the overall effect that a NWO would have?
I often question in my fight for truth: theories, said truths, opinions based on imaginative and spiritual properties etc. I personally do not influence or encourage spiritual 'healing', paganism, wicca, magick/majik/magic, nor do I currently purpose that it is in anyway possible to become in anyway 'super-human' through a connection with one's spiritual values. Though, anything felt by a person I do not condone as fake, I merely accept through optimism their choice of personal psychological influence. Though, I digress.

Essentially, through my conflicting self, I have been trying to find a substantially serious disadvantage of a New World Order... and as a matter of fact, I cannot find one. Though, I have personally found in myself numerous advantages to a NWO.

Before I go off on some tangent, I'd very much like to here some disadvantages to a NWO, that which maybe I have not been illuminated to.  :)

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 12:54:35 PM »
I open this thread not to directly question what is literally the theorized New World Order, but I open this to question what is the overall effect that a NWO would have?
I often question in my fight for truth: theories, said truths, opinions based on imaginative and spiritual properties etc. I personally do not influence or encourage spiritual 'healing', paganism, wicca, magick/magic/magic, nor do I currently purpose that it is in anyway possible to become in anyway 'super-human' through a connection with one's spiritual values. Though, anything felt by a person I do not condone as fake, I merely accept through optimism their choice of personal psychological influence. Though, I digress.

Essentially, through my conflicting self, I have been trying to find a substantially serious disadvantage of a New World Order... and as a matter of fact, I cannot find one. Though, I have personally found in myself numerous advantages to a NWO.

Before I go off on some tangent, I'd very much like to here some disadvantages to a NWO, that which maybe I have not been illuminated to.  :)
NWO= Economic! Slavery. one Army, Police, complete control over every man woman an child on the planet! :-> will that do for starters :shrug:



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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 01:18:51 PM »
if you want to know the future? ... look at the past! ... why do you think the 'Elite' families have done there very best to hide the truth of the past? ... in an attempt to continue the agenda which started ..... ************ years ago!, what is happening now is nothing new, far from it, but because we have been unable to see the truth of the past, it was virtually impossible to see :crazy:

but remember also, its not just the BAD things they have tried to hide, but the good things also, the truth of who we are!, but interestingly, history has shown us that the harder they try the more difficult it is for them .....

religion maybe dogmatic, but there is still truth within its writings, as we are discovering more day by day, wait till it gets to ... minute by minute, then second by second!, personally? i cant wait :agree:

                 
                          
 

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 03:07:22 PM »
NEW WORLD ORDER
What is it?
It is a big ruse methinks.
First of all it is not new. The power elite have been working on this for a long time a very long time. So it is really nothing "new" it is the same old evil hiding under a different pile of lies.

It is about the world but only as the power elite see it from their perspective of control and dominance.
They , power elite , claim that what they do is for the better of the world and the people.
They fail to tell the people what their idea of better is for the people.

Order sounds good, yes it sounds good. What it means is absolute control of every thing that the power elite can control.
The power elite are so out of control that they have to kill and destroy and fight among them selves to force their ideas upon those who really are only interested in their personal freedom to grow and learn from life.

Now perhaps some one can find out what the advantages of the NWO are what benefits will such a totalitarian system bequeath to the people?

Order is actually in conflict with the normal state of the universe which is actually chaos. This is the quantum theory that actually makes very good sense.  ;D ;D ;D

The paradox in it all is that order is control and it does not lead to peace.

What the enlightened know is serenity and peace which happens when one is free.
If we have serenity then order will be insignificant and the control freaks will consume themselves with their own anger and hatred.

How can one fight for peace ??? ??? Is this not the ultimate oxymoron of ideas ???
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 03:21:32 PM »
 :peace:

there is nothing that has ever existed ...

there is nothing that exists now ...

and there is nothing that will exist in the future ...


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that is new O:-)

                 
                          
 

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2009, 03:28:37 PM »
 :bump: XD "OUCH" What was that Fucken nothing I just hit my Head off!  :o



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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2009, 05:18:02 PM »
WHat is it?
not good, thats what.

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 06:31:54 PM »
there is nothing that has ever existed ...unless you created it

there is nothing that exists now ...unless you desire it

and there is nothing that will exist in the future ..unless you imagine it and fantasize it













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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 08:18:07 PM »
Actually, I don't think that the state of the universe is order OR chaos. I think it's EVOLUTION! Maybe that's a strange mix of both order AND chaos. It's movement toward a greater version of its old self...over and over and over again.

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2009, 09:24:54 PM »
Actually, I don't think that the state of the universe is order OR chaos. I think it's EVOLUTION! Maybe that's a strange mix of both order AND chaos. It's movement toward a greater version of its old self...over and over and over again.

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Re: What is the New World Order?
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Re: What is the New World Order?
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 11:11:48 PM »
sorry non of that makes sense because you aren't defining what true nature of reality is?in fact its what you make it to be through your imagination,its how compassionate you are to others peoples realities and there fantasizes,being O the created creator 
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2009, 11:24:35 PM »
sorry non of that makes sense because you aren't defining what true nature of reality is?in fact its what you make it to be through your imagination,its how compassionate you are to others peoples realities and there fantasizes,being O the created creator 

I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying? I don't make sense because I didn't define the true nature of reality?


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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2009, 11:42:43 PM »
sorry yes you do make sense for wanting a O reality but what interaction do we conflict? (somethings gotta replace the existing) love and compassion?
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 01:06:12 AM »
One world government/people=GOOD
What TPTB propose-BAD

One world "religion"=GOOD
What TPTB propose=BAD

One global currency=GOOD
What TPTB propose-BAD

One global army/police force wouldn' even be necessary if the world we talk of hereabouts comes into being.Maybe a small one for recidivists which ironically would be for the people who are proposing the NWO as it now stands.

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 05:43:49 AM »
(tip: symbolic reversal)

NWO = OWN (everything) :crazy:

                 
                          
 

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 06:28:59 AM »
 Established enlightened world government!  8)
Yea thats cool, but I think youll be hard pressed to find one enlightened soul in any government anywhere in the world as we speak! :-X so who's gonna lead the way? I wouldn't trust a Politician as far as I could trow them, an that's not very far ;)



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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2009, 09:09:15 AM »
one world
one army
one religion
one currency
one leader.....

whos the dude sitting at the top?
whats this guys resume look like?
what are his belief systems?
whats his agenda?
i mean is he hitler or Dalai lama ?

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 09:12:00 AM »
Quote from: OneCimiScott link=topic=7313.msg 38631#msg 38631 date=1257516555
one world
one army
one religion
one currency
one leader.....

who's the dude sitting at the top?
whats this guys resume look like?
what are his belief systems?
whats his agenda?
i mean is he hitler or Dalai lama ?
Somewhere in between perhaps! :shrug:



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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2009, 09:31:38 AM »
One world listening to everybody as we are the world
leader is you own self of this reality you-ed create
this is you in past,you presents is your choice,your future is O u R agreement
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2009, 09:42:56 AM »
 :bump: Translated into plain English for those like me who like it that way! :wave: :shrug:

[One "World" listening to everybody as we are the World!
the Leader is you'r own self and this reality you created,
this is you in the past,you'r present is your choice, your future is O U R agreement !]  :peace:



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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2009, 05:15:54 PM »
i am the leader of my own reality defining everything by emotion and love towards yOu, creator through self imagination.i am endless space of illusions  :P
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2009, 05:20:41 PM »
Quote from: Ak6rgend link=topic=7313.msg 38692#msg 38692 date=1257545754
i am the leader of my own reality defining everything by emotion and love towards yOu, creator through self imagination.
:bump: I love the English language! :agree: as do many others! :peace:



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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2009, 05:23:57 PM »
do you think we can create the language of light and love? seems English is of decisions and not emotions 
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2009, 05:38:07 PM »
do you think we can create the language of light and love? seems English is of decisions and not emotions 

 :bump: I express my emotions just fine! havent you notised? :shrug:
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2009, 06:00:02 PM »
what emotion do you get from the symbol O?
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2009, 06:07:40 PM »
That depends on if its a "Big O" or just a "little o" .....   :rofl:
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2009, 06:11:36 PM »
The unity O we are in but the abstract minds are outside
where are you?
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2009, 06:26:47 PM »
OM ... :banana:

all languages are very ... un-precise :agree:

                 
                          
 

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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2009, 08:32:29 PM »
mind trying this?

:sun: i am this and everything :P is everything effecting me and i do effect it through my creation of the reality i am compassionate about that is life because it is myself.....my prayer for you hear my love to imagine.the reality of truth is current-end  



sorry iv been Slacking the ability to love :'( just been caught up in appreciation in O:-) you,i,us o

who is A day in need of surfacing the truth of who you,i,we are?
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2009, 12:09:49 AM »
One world government/people=GOOD
What TPTB propose-BAD

One world "religion"=GOOD
What TPTB propose=BAD

One global currency=GOOD
What TPTB propose-BAD

One global army/police force wouldn' even be necessary if the world we talk of hereabouts comes into being.Maybe a small one for recidivists which ironically would be for the people who are proposing the NWO as it now stands.

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Ahh, okay. So that's the complication I face. What is it that TPTB, (from what I understand abbreviates 'The Powers To Be'?) purpose? I see previous mention of powerful words such as slavery; allusion to issues such oppression; implications of worldwide suffering... etc. but what is the actual agenda of TPTB?
How has this agenda logically been established?

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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2009, 01:23:31 AM »
TBTB= The Powers THAT Be (or as some might say the powers that were)

There's the rub, the agenda hasn.t been logically established. As with most things it will be forced into place whether you like it or not.

All national reserves conglomerating into the IMF and World Bank which will continue the debt/credit system which you will have to participate in, a global religion (Chrislam?) which will have no dissenters as core belief (you're in or a heretic) A structure that will be supported by a puppet government which will pass laws to benefit "those that have" over "those that have not"-being enforced by a global police and army who will know where the naysayers are because they have been microchipped under the guise of "health, credit and security fluidity and ease of management". Picture America or Europe right now, make it more paranoid and far more right wing and you get what the NWO is all about except you wont have a choice to opt out without being labelled a criminal recidivist and end up jailed or simply euthenased as a hopless free thinker.
Read 1984 by George Orwell-a bit old fashioned but on the money or Aldous Huxleys-Brave New World.
Love is the only way and they just want hate and power. Love your neighbour or be scared of your neighbour. Fend for yourself or be forced to work and have forced debt for your whole life. Think what you want in a loving world community or be a mind slave to the official doctrine(which you dont get a say in.

Questions you need to ask yourself.

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Although he can be a bit on the fringe with some of his conclusions read or watch some david icke or just tune into the zeitgeist vid in this forum somewheres.
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2009, 03:58:49 AM »
Digital, you speak the truth my brother!  :agree:

On the surface, a "new world order" sounds like a good plan. They will use phrases like "global democracy" and other catch words that will appeal to the masses. It's Orwellian doublespeak to fool everyone into believing that it's being done for altruistic ends.
But we have to understand who these people are and what their historical track record is. These are people who are unelected, hide behind the scenes and operate in complete SECRECY, anonymity, and are accountable to NO ONE but eachother (and possibly something unholy that we can't comprehend). It's a tiny handful of aristocratic oligarchs, mostly rich white men, who are behind the wars, slaughters, secret renditions, etc that go on throughout the world. If you want to know what *their* version of the new world order would look like, just take a look at what they are ALREADY doing and multiply it by 1000. Also, think about the fact that they have always taken *baby steps* to accomplish this goal...otherwise called "incrementalism". If what they were planning for us and the world was such a nobel cause, why wouldn't they be shouting it from the rooftops and bringing it into play faster? The very fact that they are doing it quietly while the media and culture distracts us with bullshit stories, celebrity gossip, and sports is proof (to me at least) that they know the masses of people would disagree with it and openly resist it. RFID microchips for all people and pets and security cameras everywhere? Why? To keep us permanently under their radar. One world debt-based currency? Why? So we will always be indebted to them. One world globalized police force that answers to one single ruling body? Why? Look at the way police behave toward the average person today. Cruelty is their game. They are absolutely malevolent and they know it.

The New World Order is based on, for lack of a better word, a satanic agenda. These secretive elite groups are the embodiment of occultic evil itself. THAT is why the new world order is to be exposed and resisted.

A new world AGE, on the other hand, is the alternative. A "golden" era where peace, harmony and borders become a thing of the past. Police, religious institutions, government, armies, secret agencies, weapons, money and "business" would no longer exist because we will have outgrown it by the process of conscious evolution. There will be no more artificial lines drawn between races or sexes. Class divisions will dissolve as we all begin to live as equals...once and for all, under the guiding principle that we are all equal by Divine right. The only remaining "law" will be Divine law, which will be adhered to by everyone because we will have evolved to a higher reality altogether. Crime will become obsolete. Our time will be freed up for creativity, rather than the sheer struggle to survive. Suffering will be no more. The motivation behind production will be for use, rather than profit.

So there essentially are 2 options here, (un)fortunately it IS that "black and white": Hell on Earth. Or Heaven on Earth. I choose the latter. And it's obvious what option the elite is striving toward.

Funnily enough, 2 possible nightmare/ultimate dream scenarios appear to be on the horizon, one for each: a one world global tyranny, and...ASCENSION. I suppose since we are now living through the final war between the forces of Light and Darkness, the final result is now anyone's guess.

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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2009, 11:13:10 AM »
buzz words can be fun :D especially theres 8)

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2009, 01:02:28 PM »
truly we are the creators of this "NEW" World order in how we cooperate with this idea of become the illusion creators? what i mean is that i am clicking away from this time right here to become my own system of reality creator causing love chaos is my ultimate goal for now, yes men did the news paper of dreams remember?   im planning to do the news paper of self,i,whole which will shock the reader into believing that he/she em self is the writer of it from the future crying out for you/i/self to come back to living out of system of confinement.

does anyone understand the power of creating a illusion that's infinite?

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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2009, 06:58:36 AM »
On the surface, a "new world order" sounds like a good plan. They will use phrases like "global democracy" and other catch words that will appeal to the masses. It's Orwellian doublespeak to fool everyone into believing that it's being done for altruistic ends.
But we have to understand who these people are and what their historical track record is. These are people who are unelected, hide behind the scenes and operate in complete SECRECY, anonymity, and are accountable to NO ONE but eachother (and possibly something unholy that we can't comprehend). It's a tiny handful of aristocratic oligarchs, mostly rich white men, who are behind the wars, slaughters, secret renditions, etc that go on throughout the world. If you want to know what *their* version of the new world order would look like, just take a look at what they are ALREADY doing and multiply it by 1000. Also, think about the fact that they have always taken *baby steps* to accomplish this goal...otherwise called "incrementalism". If what they were planning for us and the world was such a nobel cause, why wouldn't they be shouting it from the rooftops and bringing it into play faster? The very fact that they are doing it quietly while the media and culture distracts us with bullshit stories, celebrity gossip, and sports is proof (to me at least) that they know the masses of people would disagree with it and openly resist it. RFID microchips for all people and pets and security cameras everywhere? Why? To keep us permanently under their radar. One world debt-based currency? Why? So we will always be indebted to them. One world globalized police force that answers to one single ruling body? Why? Look at the way police behave toward the average person today. Cruelty is their game. They are absolutely malevolent and they know it.


The New World Order is based on, for lack of a better word, a satanic agenda. These secretive elite groups are the embodiment of occultic evil itself. THAT is why the new world order is to be exposed and resisted.

Indeed, these are nice assumptions but how do we know that this is their agenda? I do not mock your theories nor do I condone that they are based off of ignorance, but I find the nature of these assumptions... improbable. If the bases of this plan was founded by an initial few who decided to incorporate the knowledge onwards through their progeny(especially on the fundamental beliefs of an occultic or in this case, Satanic value), how is it possible that no descendant within the progeny swayed from this path? How far along does this Oligarchy go back? It is one thing to have wealth travel through time, but it is another to assume that knowledge, belief, and global agendas are maintained throughout hundreds of years. Of course, it is not an impossibility but it is just not logical.
Furthermore, I'm not assuming that their possible agenda would be for a good cause. Based on the ethics that these individuals constantly show through their greedy life styles reflect why it is possible for these theories to exist, but it is pure theory that these ideas are based from. And often, people are willing to see evidence in places where they want to see it. I will not deny that they do not have as much influence as you suggest they do... but their agenda is based off of the ideas of individualized fear mongering, established by the individualist seeking solace in their fear. Moreover, the perceptive value of the imagination wants us to believe that these theories exist... because our realities, sub-consciously, would be of a significantly greater interest if they did. People strive to believe that spiritual magic exists because the nature of it's value would provide a much greater worldly experience for that individual. They believe that in the usage of symbols, sacrifice, fasting... or whatever, that they can escape the normal life that they are trapped in, but they are merely using their imagination as a portal for perception and seeing things that appear like magical miracles... but are in actuality the mundane manipulated by your self-manipulated perception. We want it to exist, we believe it exists... therefore, it does exist. I have seen the evidence in attempts to prove this ancient agenda, and it is all misguided misreadings of symbols, words and documents. They believe a connection exists, thus their imagination allows the connection to exist.

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A new world AGE, on the other hand, is the alternative. A "golden" era where peace, harmony and borders become a thing of the past. Police, religious institutions, government, armies, secret agencies, weapons, money and "business" would no longer exist because we will have outgrown it by the process of conscious evolution. There will be no more artificial lines drawn between races or sexes. Class divisions will dissolve as we all begin to live as equals...once and for all, under the guiding principle that we are all equal by Divine right. The only remaining "law" will be Divine law, which will be adhered to by everyone because we will have evolved to a higher reality altogether. Crime will become obsolete. Our time will be freed up for creativity, rather than the sheer struggle to survive. Suffering will be no more. The motivation behind production will be for use, rather than profit.


As welcoming as that nature would be... it is an impossibility in the nature of man and evolution. It would take 1 single mind to completely destroy that existence... and in that single mind's sway from this ascended state, the whole process of ascension would go in reverse. .

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2009, 07:41:17 AM »
Digital, you speak the truth my brother!  :agree:


A new world AGE, on the other hand, is the alternative. A "golden" era where peace, harmony and borders become a thing of the past. Police, religious institutions, government, armies, secret agencies, weapons, money and "business" would no longer exist because we will have outgrown it by the process of conscious evolution. There will be no more artificial lines drawn between races or sexes. Class divisions will dissolve as we all begin to live as equals...once and for all, under the guiding principle that we are all equal by Divine right. The only remaining "law" will be Divine law, which will be adhered to by everyone because we will have evolved to a higher reality altogether. Crime will become obsolete. Our time will be freed up for creativity, rather than the sheer struggle to survive. Suffering will be no more. The motivation behind production will be for use, rather than profit.

So there essentially are 2 options here, (un)fortunately it IS that "black and white": Hell on Earth. Or Heaven on Earth. I choose the latter. And it's obvious what option the elite is striving toward.


I hear you  :agree:
This is what we need to strive for. One world, one people, a unified earth working together for betterment, not profit  8)

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2009, 11:09:38 AM »
On the surface, a "new world order" sounds like a good plan. They will use phrases like "global democracy" and other catch words that will appeal to the masses. It's Orwellian doublespeak to fool everyone into believing that it's being done for altruistic ends.
But we have to understand who these people are and what their historical track record is. These are people who are unelected, hide behind the scenes and operate in complete SECRECY, anonymity, and are accountable to NO ONE but eachother (and possibly something unholy that we can't comprehend). It's a tiny handful of aristocratic oligarchs, mostly rich white men, who are behind the wars, slaughters, secret renditions, etc that go on throughout the world. If you want to know what *their* version of the new world order would look like, just take a look at what they are ALREADY doing and multiply it by 1000. Also, think about the fact that they have always taken *baby steps* to accomplish this goal...otherwise called "incrementalism". If what they were planning for us and the world was such a nobel cause, why wouldn't they be shouting it from the rooftops and bringing it into play faster? The very fact that they are doing it quietly while the media and culture distracts us with bullshit stories, celebrity gossip, and sports is proof (to me at least) that they know the masses of people would disagree with it and openly resist it. RFID microchips for all people and pets and security cameras everywhere? Why? To keep us permanently under their radar. One world debt-based currency? Why? So we will always be indebted to them. One world globalized police force that answers to one single ruling body? Why? Look at the way police behave toward the average person today. Cruelty is their game. They are absolutely malevolent and they know it.


The New World Order is based on, for lack of a better word, a satanic agenda. These secretive elite groups are the embodiment of occultic evil itself. THAT is why the new world order is to be exposed and resisted.

Indeed, these are nice assumptions but how do we know that this is their agenda? I do not mock your theories nor do I condone that they are based off of ignorance, but I find the nature of these assumptions... improbable. If the bases of this plan was founded by an initial few who decided to incorporate the knowledge onwards through their progeny(especially on the fundamental beliefs of an occultic or in this case, Satanic value), how is it possible that no descendant within the progeny swayed from this path? How far along does this Oligarchy go back? It is one thing to have wealth travel through time, but it is another to assume that knowledge, belief, and global agendas are maintained throughout hundreds of years. Of course, it is not an impossibility but it is just not logical.
Furthermore, I'm not assuming that their possible agenda would be for a good cause. Based on the ethics that these individuals constantly show through their greedy life styles reflect why it is possible for these theories to exist, but it is pure theory that these ideas are based from. And often, people are willing to see evidence in places where they want to see it. I will not deny that they do not have as much influence as you suggest they do... but their agenda is based off of the ideas of individualized fear mongering, established by the individualist seeking solace in their fear. Moreover, the perceptive value of the imagination wants us to believe that these theories exist... because our realities, sub-consciously, would be of a significantly greater interest if they did. People strive to believe that spiritual magic exists because the nature of it's value would provide a much greater worldly experience for that individual. They believe that in the usage of symbols, sacrifice, fasting... or whatever, that they can escape the normal life that they are trapped in, but they are merely using their imagination as a portal for perception and seeing things that appear like magical miracles... but are in actuality the mundane manipulated by your self-manipulated perception. We want it to exist, we believe it exists... therefore, it does exist. I have seen the evidence in attempts to prove this ancient agenda, and it is all misguided misreadings of symbols, words and documents. They believe a connection exists, thus their imagination allows the connection to exist.

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A new world AGE, on the other hand, is the alternative. A "golden" era where peace, harmony and borders become a thing of the past. Police, religious institutions, government, armies, secret agencies, weapons, money and "business" would no longer exist because we will have outgrown it by the process of conscious evolution. There will be no more artificial lines drawn between races or sexes. Class divisions will dissolve as we all begin to live as equals...once and for all, under the guiding principle that we are all equal by Divine right. The only remaining "law" will be Divine law, which will be adhered to by everyone because we will have evolved to a higher reality altogether. Crime will become obsolete. Our time will be freed up for creativity, rather than the sheer struggle to survive. Suffering will be no more. The motivation behind production will be for use, rather than profit.


As welcoming as that nature would be... it is an impossibility in the nature of man and evolution. It would take 1 single mind to completely destroy that existence... and in that single mind's sway from this ascended state, the whole process of ascension would go in reverse. .

Quote from:  Digitalrasta
TBTB= The Powers THAT Be

Ahh gotcha. :)

 I'm pretty sure that I agree with you here. I don't have a black and white view of this "so called" agenda and it is a fine line between NWO and "world peace".

as the line decreases through understanding, so will the need to give and "enemy" your personal power of thought.
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2009, 03:21:11 PM »
order is to order yourself,o to be as you wish to create

and i think a celebration of life is needed so lets gather ourselves in the fields of natures perspective of energy creatiors

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