Necros, you make intelligent points based on a purely scientific 3rd dimensional understanding that are in fundamental contradiction (and disagreement) with my own. Of course you are entitled.
First of all, they are NOT nice assumptions. They are indeed very intimidating and disturbing. Which serves to contrast your point that people make up these theories in their own minds because it somehow comforts them. I've heard this before with regard to the 9/11 truth movement. There are certain thinkers out there who actually believe that humans WANT to believe the worst of their fellow bretheren because it offers them a sense of solace. To me, that is a complete distortion of logic. I do not find it comforting to know that the top elite of the world are driven by a philosophy of complete and unadulterated evil.
You have taken my use of the word 'nice' completely out of context. I had no intention of using it a means of glorifying the happiness and pleasantries in your assumptions. The word 'nice' was used to attribute to the fact that these assumptions are of potential to be questioned. Not that the thought behind them is not disturbing. Do not be misguided by your perception of the person you think I am.
As for your question of why nobody from within their ranks have "swayed from their path", well...some HAVE. Google Arizona Wilder for starters. I don't know how reliable she is, but it's a start. There are supposedly others who've become born again Christians. As to why more don't sway from it...well, my guess is because a) they are so deluded by it that they believe it is THE way, b) they may fear for their safety as well as the safety of their loved ones, or c) they believe it would be a hopeless cause. As far as the passing along of hidden knowledge from generation to generation, I simply disagree with you about it not being logical. To me, it seems *all too* logical. These are the most arrogant humans ever to have lived. They believe, through their "royal" bloodlines, that they are the "chosen ones"...designed to rule the world. Also, it's not hundreds of years, but thousands.
I am familiar with Arizona Wilder. There is no structure in any of her fear mongering. There is no connection, to which I have found, that has any direct personal connection to the 'elite' whatsoever. If she was so willing to come forth, release photographic proof of herself etc. Why is it that she would not give logical background information as to what part of the inner circles she was immersed in and/or even how she got there? Any correlation to her truth, is out of blind belief.
"Seeking solace in fear"...that is so utterly counter-intuitive that I can't even bother mustering an argument against it. It's irrationality speaks for itself. The mental backbends you made, which are based on a perverted branch (the mainstream branch, unfortunately) of psychology have served the elite well. It is your brand of thinking which keeps them firmly in power, which is the most diabolical thing of all. It's essentially the icing on their cake. Well done.
Your argument has literally no logical value. You are merely using personal attacks to misguide my logical questions and statements. I have never denounced, nor condoned your views... and I went out of may to say that; but to condone logic over blind belief in a system of flawed misconceptions, is the only perverted misrepresentation of psychology here. I think thus my point remains in wholeness and valid. These individuals are misguided by a role of fear and imagination. Their perception is curved by what they want to see, rather what logic shows to them. There is simply no evidence WHATSOEVER except mismatched symbols and theories to condone these elites as Satanic reptilian aliens(which is what Arizona Wilder believes in and I assume if you accept her word, you accept that she is being honest?), secretly, diabolically, manipulating the population and puppeteering the government for global dominance.
As for your opinion about a potential "golden age", that's simply what it is...an opinion...which is based solely upon a materialistic, 3rd dimensional thought process. It's quite logical, of course. Mine, on the other hand, is based on the teachings of Indigenous shamans who have an innate understanding on the nature of spiritual evolution, the reason humans have embarked on this sojourn from so long ago. It bases itself upon a more intuitive perception of reality. So essentially, our disagreement is an ancient one. It's the argument of whether there is a Divine Creator God versus the argument that there is not. We simply don't agree. And that is ok. The reason I don't agree with your thought that one soul would ruin it for the rest is because in the ascended state, enlightenment would render that possibility obsolete. It wouldn't even be a consideration. We would no longer be thinking within the limited 3D matrix which paralyses your...uh, I mean, our minds now.
Give me a name of ONE indigenous shaman? ONE real indigenous shaman who has said that the TPTB are a Satanic force attempting to overcome the world, through NWO? You again are refusing to refute my arguments; my logic. You are ironically using your higher understanding to inferiorize me; and yet, are showing your lesser level of understanding by doing so.
You are assuming that I have not reached or attempted to reach spiritual well being. You are wrong.
You are assuming that I am an atheist. You are wrong. Our argument has no relevance to this idea whatsoever.
You are basing your arguments on worldly ignorance, avoiding my arguments. Who is now 3D from this perspective? I have and never will admit I am above/below/around or encircling anyone or myself. My logic has value, and in your attempts or rather inability to refute it thus makes it seem more so.
You discredit my lack of compassion in previous threads, and yet do not show compassion in your own words. Mocking someone I feel is not compassionate in any means.
Nevertheless, your idea of an ascended state is blind. It's not that we wouldn't be thinking in the state of this '3D matrix': in your views we wouldn't be thinking for ourselves whatsoever. Thus I suppose you're right. But the idea of leaving elitist control to live among divine control seems rather a weird perspective to assume.