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Offline Whitewolf

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2009, 09:52:40 PM »
On the surface, a "new world order" sounds like a good plan. They will use phrases like "global democracy" and other catch words that will appeal to the masses. It's Orwellian doublespeak to fool everyone into believing that it's being done for altruistic ends.
But we have to understand who these people are and what their historical track record is. These are people who are unelected, hide behind the scenes and operate in complete SECRECY, anonymity, and are accountable to NO ONE but eachother (and possibly something unholy that we can't comprehend). It's a tiny handful of aristocratic oligarchs, mostly rich white men, who are behind the wars, slaughters, secret renditions, etc that go on throughout the world. If you want to know what *their* version of the new world order would look like, just take a look at what they are ALREADY doing and multiply it by 1000. Also, think about the fact that they have always taken *baby steps* to accomplish this goal...otherwise called "incrementalism". If what they were planning for us and the world was such a nobel cause, why wouldn't they be shouting it from the rooftops and bringing it into play faster? The very fact that they are doing it quietly while the media and culture distracts us with bullshit stories, celebrity gossip, and sports is proof (to me at least) that they know the masses of people would disagree with it and openly resist it. RFID microchips for all people and pets and security cameras everywhere? Why? To keep us permanently under their radar. One world debt-based currency? Why? So we will always be indebted to them. One world globalized police force that answers to one single ruling body? Why? Look at the way police behave toward the average person today. Cruelty is their game. They are absolutely malevolent and they know it.


The New World Order is based on, for lack of a better word, a satanic agenda. These secretive elite groups are the embodiment of occultic evil itself. THAT is why the new world order is to be exposed and resisted.

Indeed, these are nice assumptions but how do we know that this is their agenda? I do not mock your theories nor do I condone that they are based off of ignorance, but I find the nature of these assumptions... improbable. If the bases of this plan was founded by an initial few who decided to incorporate the knowledge onwards through their progeny(especially on the fundamental beliefs of an occultic or in this case, Satanic value), how is it possible that no descendant within the progeny swayed from this path? How far along does this Oligarchy go back? It is one thing to have wealth travel through time, but it is another to assume that knowledge, belief, and global agendas are maintained throughout hundreds of years. Of course, it is not an impossibility but it is just not logical.
Furthermore, I'm not assuming that their possible agenda would be for a good cause. Based on the ethics that these individuals constantly show through their greedy life styles reflect why it is possible for these theories to exist, but it is pure theory that these ideas are based from. And often, people are willing to see evidence in places where they want to see it. I will not deny that they do not have as much influence as you suggest they do... but their agenda is based off of the ideas of individualized fear mongering, established by the individualist seeking solace in their fear. Moreover, the perceptive value of the imagination wants us to believe that these theories exist... because our realities, sub-consciously, would be of a significantly greater interest if they did. People strive to believe that spiritual magic exists because the nature of it's value would provide a much greater worldly experience for that individual. They believe that in the usage of symbols, sacrifice, fasting... or whatever, that they can escape the normal life that they are trapped in, but they are merely using their imagination as a portal for perception and seeing things that appear like magical miracles... but are in actuality the mundane manipulated by your self-manipulated perception. We want it to exist, we believe it exists... therefore, it does exist. I have seen the evidence in attempts to prove this ancient agenda, and it is all misguided misreadings of symbols, words and documents. They believe a connection exists, thus their imagination allows the connection to exist.

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A new world AGE, on the other hand, is the alternative. A "golden" era where peace, harmony and borders become a thing of the past. Police, religious institutions, government, armies, secret agencies, weapons, money and "business" would no longer exist because we will have outgrown it by the process of conscious evolution. There will be no more artificial lines drawn between races or sexes. Class divisions will dissolve as we all begin to live as equals...once and for all, under the guiding principle that we are all equal by Divine right. The only remaining "law" will be Divine law, which will be adhered to by everyone because we will have evolved to a higher reality altogether. Crime will become obsolete. Our time will be freed up for creativity, rather than the sheer struggle to survive. Suffering will be no more. The motivation behind production will be for use, rather than profit.


As welcoming as that nature would be... it is an impossibility in the nature of man and evolution. It would take 1 single mind to completely destroy that existence... and in that single mind's sway from this ascended state, the whole process of ascension would go in reverse. .

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Necros, you make intelligent points based on a purely scientific 3rd dimensional understanding that are in fundamental contradiction (and disagreement) with my own. Of course you are entitled.
First of all, they are NOT nice assumptions. They are indeed very intimidating and disturbing. Which serves to contrast your point that people make up these theories in their own minds because it somehow comforts them. I've heard this before with regard to the 9/11 truth movement. There are certain thinkers out there who actually believe that humans WANT to believe the worst of their fellow bretheren because it offers them a sense of solace. To me, that is a complete distortion of logic. I do not find it comforting to know that the top elite of the world are driven by a philosophy of complete and unadulterated evil.

As for your question of why nobody from within their ranks have "swayed from their path", well...some HAVE. Google Arizona Wilder for starters. I don't know how reliable she is, but it's a start. There are supposedly others who've become born again Christians. As to why more don't sway from it...well, my guess is because a) they are so deluded by it that they believe it is THE way, b) they may fear for their safety as well as the safety of their loved ones, or c) they believe it would be a hopeless cause. As far as the passing along of hidden knowledge from generation to generation, I simply disagree with you about it not being logical. To me, it seems *all too* logical. These are the most arrogant humans ever to have lived. They believe, through their "royal" bloodlines, that they are the "chosen ones"...designed to rule the world. Also, it's not hundreds of years, but thousands.

"Seeking solace in fear"...that is so utterly counter-intuitive that I can't even bother mustering an argument against it. It's irrationality speaks for itself. The mental backbends you made, which are based on a perverted branch (the mainstream branch, unfortunately) of psychology have served the elite well. It is your brand of thinking which keeps them firmly in power, which is the most diabolical thing of all. It's essentially the icing on their cake. Well done.  >:(

As for your opinion about a potential "golden age", that's simply what it is...an opinion...which is based solely upon a materialistic, 3rd dimensional thought process. It's quite logical, of course. Mine, on the other hand, is based on the teachings of Indigenous shamans who have an innate understanding on the nature of spiritual evolution, the reason humans have embarked on this sojourn from so long ago. It bases itself upon a more intuitive perception of reality. So essentially, our disagreement is an ancient one. It's the argument of whether there is a Divine Creator God versus the argument that there is not. We simply don't agree. And that is ok. The reason I don't agree with your thought that one soul would ruin it for the rest is because in the ascended state, enlightenment would render that possibility obsolete. It wouldn't even be a consideration. We would no longer be thinking within the limited 3D matrix which paralyses your...uh, I mean, our minds now.  :)

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2009, 10:53:53 PM »
Necros, you make intelligent points based on a purely scientific 3rd dimensional understanding that are in fundamental contradiction (and disagreement) with my own. Of course you are entitled.
First of all, they are NOT nice assumptions. They are indeed very intimidating and disturbing. Which serves to contrast your point that people make up these theories in their own minds because it somehow comforts them. I've heard this before with regard to the 9/11 truth movement. There are certain thinkers out there who actually believe that humans WANT to believe the worst of their fellow bretheren because it offers them a sense of solace. To me, that is a complete distortion of logic. I do not find it comforting to know that the top elite of the world are driven by a philosophy of complete and unadulterated evil.

You have taken my use of the word 'nice' completely out of context. I had no intention of using it a means of glorifying the happiness and pleasantries in your assumptions. The word 'nice' was used to attribute to the fact that these assumptions are of potential to be questioned. Not that the thought behind them is not disturbing. Do not be misguided by your perception of the person you think I am.

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As for your question of why nobody from within their ranks have "swayed from their path", well...some HAVE. Google Arizona Wilder for starters. I don't know how reliable she is, but it's a start. There are supposedly others who've become born again Christians. As to why more don't sway from it...well, my guess is because a) they are so deluded by it that they believe it is THE way, b) they may fear for their safety as well as the safety of their loved ones, or c) they believe it would be a hopeless cause. As far as the passing along of hidden knowledge from generation to generation, I simply disagree with you about it not being logical. To me, it seems *all too* logical. These are the most arrogant humans ever to have lived. They believe, through their "royal" bloodlines, that they are the "chosen ones"...designed to rule the world. Also, it's not hundreds of years, but thousands.

I am familiar with Arizona Wilder. There is no structure in any of her fear mongering. There is no connection, to which I have found, that has any direct personal connection to the 'elite' whatsoever. If she was so willing to come forth, release photographic proof of herself etc. Why is it that she would not give logical background information as to what part of the inner circles she was immersed in and/or even how she got there? Any correlation to her truth, is out of blind belief.

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"Seeking solace in fear"...that is so utterly counter-intuitive that I can't even bother mustering an argument against it. It's irrationality speaks for itself. The mental backbends you made, which are based on a perverted branch (the mainstream branch, unfortunately) of psychology have served the elite well. It is your brand of thinking which keeps them firmly in power, which is the most diabolical thing of all. It's essentially the icing on their cake. Well done.  >:(

Your argument has literally no logical value. You are merely using personal attacks to misguide my logical questions and statements. I have never denounced, nor condoned your views... and I went out of may to say that; but to condone logic over blind belief in a system of flawed misconceptions, is the only perverted misrepresentation of psychology here. I think thus my point remains in wholeness and valid. These individuals are misguided by a role of fear and imagination. Their perception is curved by what they want to see, rather what logic shows to them. There is simply no evidence WHATSOEVER except mismatched symbols and theories to condone these elites as Satanic reptilian aliens(which is what Arizona Wilder believes in and I assume if you accept her word, you accept that she is being honest?), secretly, diabolically, manipulating the population and puppeteering the government for global dominance. 

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As for your opinion about a potential "golden age", that's simply what it is...an opinion...which is based solely upon a materialistic, 3rd dimensional thought process. It's quite logical, of course. Mine, on the other hand, is based on the teachings of Indigenous shamans who have an innate understanding on the nature of spiritual evolution, the reason humans have embarked on this sojourn from so long ago. It bases itself upon a more intuitive perception of reality. So essentially, our disagreement is an ancient one. It's the argument of whether there is a Divine Creator God versus the argument that there is not. We simply don't agree. And that is ok. The reason I don't agree with your thought that one soul would ruin it for the rest is because in the ascended state, enlightenment would render that possibility obsolete. It wouldn't even be a consideration. We would no longer be thinking within the limited 3D matrix which paralyses your...uh, I mean, our minds now.  :)

Give me a name of ONE indigenous shaman? ONE real indigenous shaman who has said that the TPTB are a Satanic force attempting to overcome the world, through NWO? You again are refusing to refute my arguments; my logic. You are ironically using your higher understanding to inferiorize me; and yet, are showing your lesser level of understanding by doing so.
You are assuming that I have not reached or attempted to reach spiritual well being. You are wrong.
You are assuming that I am an atheist. You are wrong. Our argument has no relevance to this idea whatsoever.
You are basing your arguments on worldly ignorance, avoiding my arguments. Who is now 3D from this perspective? I have and never will admit I am above/below/around or encircling anyone or myself. My logic has value, and in your attempts or rather inability to refute it thus makes it seem more so.
You discredit my lack of compassion in previous threads, and yet do not show compassion in your own words. Mocking someone I feel is not compassionate in any means.
Nevertheless, your idea of an ascended state is blind. It's not that we wouldn't be thinking in the state of this '3D matrix': in your views we wouldn't be thinking for ourselves whatsoever. Thus I suppose you're right. But the idea of leaving elitist control to live among divine control seems rather a weird perspective to assume.



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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2009, 04:07:22 AM »
 :bump: 3D Logical thought has it's Limitations! and it's Logical Limitations are here for all to see! Shamen! "Rock"! 8)



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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2009, 12:40:04 PM »
:bump: 3D Logical thought has it's Limitations! and it's Logical Limitations are here for all to see! Shamen! "Rock"! 8)

That is true for everything. For even the 'idea' of infinity has it's limitation.

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2009, 10:38:43 AM »
what is the new world order ? same as the old world order
.2 % awakend
1% elite
9 % elite minions
89.8 % hapless plebes

the more things change , the more they remain the same  :angryy:

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2009, 12:30:50 PM »
what is the new world order?

a bunch of 'merchant bankers' :crazy: (rhyming slang) :P

                 
                          
 

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2009, 12:42:45 PM »
what is the new world order?

a bunch of 'merchant bankers' :crazy: (rhyming slang) :P
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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2009, 06:12:02 PM »


Necros, you make intelligent points based on a purely scientific 3rd dimensional understanding that are in fundamental contradiction (and disagreement) with my own. Of course you are entitled.
First of all, they are NOT nice assumptions. They are indeed very intimidating and disturbing. Which serves to contrast your point that people make up these theories in their own minds because it somehow comforts them. I've heard this before with regard to the 9/11 truth movement. There are certain thinkers out there who actually believe that humans WANT to believe the worst of their fellow bretheren because it offers them a sense of solace. To me, that is a complete distortion of logic. I do not find it comforting to know that the top elite of the world are driven by a philosophy of complete and unadulterated evil.

As for your question of why nobody from within their ranks have "swayed from their path", well...some HAVE. Google Arizona Wilder for starters. I don't know how reliable she is, but it's a start. There are supposedly others who've become born again Christians. As to why more don't sway from it...well, my guess is because a) they are so deluded by it that they believe it is THE way, b) they may fear for their safety as well as the safety of their loved ones, or c) they believe it would be a hopeless cause. As far as the passing along of hidden knowledge from generation to generation, I simply disagree with you about it not being logical. To me, it seems *all too* logical. These are the most arrogant humans ever to have lived. They believe, through their "royal" bloodlines, that they are the "chosen ones"...designed to rule the world. Also, it's not hundreds of years, but thousands.

"Seeking solace in fear"...that is so utterly counter-intuitive that I can't even bother mustering an argument against it. It's irrationality speaks for itself. The mental backbends you made, which are based on a perverted branch (the mainstream branch, unfortunately) of psychology have served the elite well. It is your brand of thinking which keeps them firmly in power, which is the most diabolical thing of all. It's essentially the icing on their cake. Well done.  >:(

As for your opinion about a potential "golden age", that's simply what it is...an opinion...which is based solely upon a materialistic, 3rd dimensional thought process. It's quite logical, of course. Mine, on the other hand, is based on the teachings of Indigenous shamans who have an innate understanding on the nature of spiritual evolution, the reason humans have embarked on this sojourn from so long ago. It bases itself upon a more intuitive perception of reality. So essentially, our disagreement is an ancient one. It's the argument of whether there is a Divine Creator God versus the argument that there is not. We simply don't agree. And that is ok. The reason I don't agree with your thought that one soul would ruin it for the rest is because in the ascended state, enlightenment would render that possibility obsolete. It wouldn't even be a consideration. We would no longer be thinking within the limited 3D matrix which paralyses your...uh, I mean, our minds now.  :)

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Re: What is the New World Order?
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2009, 07:49:34 AM »
what is the new world order?

a bunch of 'merchant bankers' :crazy: (rhyming slang) :P
:bump: Surely yea mean Merchant Wankers! or pedel and crankers! :shrug: But of course you dont swear! O:-)

of course i f***ing dont, :crazy: besides, i was being polite :agree: